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Apple's steps toward backup in the cloud tread lightly on third-party developers

Jenna Wortham of the New York Times wrote, "How do you know if you've created a really great, useful iPhone app? Apple tries to put you out of business." That's a pretty common reaction to Monday's WWDC keynote, and the shock and awe was not limited to iPhone apps.

On Friday, TUAW mused about what Apple's return to cloud services might mean to backup-in-the-cloud developers. On Monday, Apple introduced iCloud, a way to push your music, photos, calendars and other data to the cloud so that it's "always accessible from your iPad, iPhone, iPod touch, Mac or PC," with instant access to that data across all your devices. While it does not appear that this service is any kind of substitute for a comprehensive backup strategy, it does show Apple continuing to move in the direction of taking charge of users' data protection needs.

TUAW was curious how third-party cloud developers would react to Apple's entry into an arena that might step on the toes of their current offerings. We talked to the developers of Dolly Drive, CrashPlan and Arq to ascertain their reactions to iCloud. What we found was this: iCloud isn't about to drive Mac backup solutions out of business, the way that the keynote announcements challenged products like Readability, Instapaper and Sparrow.

Dolly Drive

Dolly Drive provides online backups using Apple's Time Machine technology for Mac OS X. Its cloud storage solutions merge the Mac Time Machine user experience with offsite safety to guard against a calamity that takes down your local backups as well as your computer.

TUAW contacted Dolly Drive to see what they had to say about Apple's iCloud. Dolly Drive's spokesperson Leigh Kessler told TUAW, "iCloud is an example of Apple ingenuity and excites us as a solution for sharing among Apple devices. But we hope Mac users are not confused into thinking that iCloud's convenience is a substitute for true data backup and we think Apple would agree. Time Machine is still the most comprehensive way to protect and recover everything on your Mac and Dolly Drive is still the only way to do that in the cloud."

Kessler provided the following table to differentiate Dolly Drive from iCloud.

iCloud lets you iCloud doesn't Dolly Drive will
  • see all your itunes library from all your mac and apple devices
  • stream a limited number of photos from your iOS devices onto your mac and Apple TV
  • sync documents that have been integrated into the iCloud framework.
  • Backup a set of items that are on your iOS devices
  • provide Mac desktop or laptop backup
  • provide automatic iPhoto sync
  • backup for music that is deleted from your music library
  • backup or sync of documents that don't comply with iCloud
  • backup all and any OS X computer file to Dolly Grid cloud storage
  • recover from a crash with Dolly Clone
  • backup from anywhere your computer is multiple times a day

CrashPlan

CrashPlan provides an always-on cloud-based solution for online data backup. Instead of using a Time Machine interface, CrashPlan runs in the background of your Mac performing regular updates to remote servers. CrashPlan's Mike Evangelist told TUAW, "We are still absorbing the many facets of Apple's announcements, but our feeling is generally positive. First and foremost [iCloud] will validate cloud options for the average user. In a sense [it's] assuring non-technical people that the cloud is nothing to fear."

He explained, "As is typical with Apple's solutions, iCloud is stripped down to a few essential features. We see it as an opportunity to continue to provide robust, cross-platform solutions for home and business users. Small and large businesses have needs that are clearly not addressed by iCloud, including security, monitoring and management, the ability to run local servers, and a lot more. That's where CrashPlan PRO excels."

Arq and SyncPhotos

Stefan Reitshamer is the developer behind Arq, whose backup solution is built around Amazon's S3 cloud-based data storage infrastructure. He was intrigued by what Apple's new technology means. "Apple is trying to get rid of the file concept in OS X, just like iOS. There are no files in iOS -- there are only apps and their data. In the keynote we never saw a Finder window or a file -- only the new Launchpad. Likewise, the iCloud backup stuff is built into apps. So unless all your apps have added iCloud integration, iCloud backup isn't going to suffice."

"The syncing stuff looked very single-user," Reitshamer continued, "aside from the calendar sharing. The photo stream stuff was cool but it only synched to a single person's devices. You still can't do what my SyncPhotos app does (sync new photos from someone else's computer). It's not surprising. They've never been very interested in groupware; they're usually more focused on the individual user."

Conclusions

While iCloud approaches the notion of moving your data to the cloud, it still has a long way to go if Apple decideds to take it to a full backup solution. iCloud will ship with 5 GB of free storage (not counting purchased items like music and apps), with additional increments likely purchasable by the user.



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Amj Junior

i don't know how to recover the Data and i am using the iPhone for business and personal please help urgently .

January 29 2012 at 3:09 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Amj Junior

i have an iPhone and i deleted all the data from my phone by mistake please assist because i thought i did the back up via the ICloud

January 29 2012 at 3:08 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Andy Barratt

Does anyone think there'll be Airplay integration with iCloud in the future? I was hoping for a severing of the reliance on iTunes for streaming my media (including video) to my AppleTV from my iMac, which obviously currently relies on being on and having iTunes open

June 08 2011 at 8:04 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Hugues

I think the whole idea of iCloud is not to back up data in the cloud. Apple doesn't want to run servers just to store users' data, but rather deliver a much friendlier way to keep your devices in synch wirelessly. That sort of recoups in the cloud back-up for a part of users data, but does not aim at replacing full back-up altogether. And i doubt that Apple will ever make that move, that's just not a high margin business to them.

I hope that long time .Mac and MobileMe users will be granted some extra storage though...

June 08 2011 at 7:51 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Michael Hamson

Did I watch a different keynote? What I got out of iCloud was very different, but agreeably subtle in nature for the less technical. (not talking about you Erica)

Why is that all the news outlets (old & new) are saying this is a cloud service akin to more conventional concepts like Google Docs. The truth is that iCloud (in my understanding) is a more elaborate means for seamless syncing of data between devices with an added "Oppps" protection to allow for recovery and/or propagating to a new device.

In no way did Apple demonstrate user facing applications in the cloud. Rather, they are following the Web 3.0-ish model of local application interactions with the remote services.

Those who are in the business of providing apps in the clouds, offsite backup/restore, and other avenues need not worry in my view. Additionally, it seems that the sector that Apple is hitting is very under developed.

June 08 2011 at 5:13 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
HLP

ICloud does device synching and iOS backup. These are Mac backup solutions, so the comparison is not very relevant.

June 07 2011 at 10:12 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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Csrtmr

That's the point....these ARE Mac solutions, but an easily confusable matter if you're not well versed in cloud based backups. These companies want to make sure people know their products are still useful and not replaced by iCloud.

June 07 2011 at 11:33 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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HLP

Why use the quote that Apple is trying to put them out of business if she isn't insinuating that the products do the same thing.

June 09 2011 at 11:40 AM Report abuse rate up rate down
DEEmery

I think there is a HUGE difference between:
1. music in the cloud, where everyone can share the iTunes copy of a given song (net cost/user: pretty trivial!)
2. 'last 1000 photos in a month' sharing (isn't there something like a 5gb limit? )
and
3. backups in the cloud.

The latter would have to handle about 200gb for me, just counting mail archives (40gb - critical to what I do), work and personal files, and photos (In 12 days in France, I took about 1500 photos at about 15-20mb each, Canon T2i Raw+JPEG...) Maybe Apple will one day raise its per-user storage by 2 orders of magnitude. That's what I'd estimate it would take to provide a no-kidding cloud-based backup for my laptop. (Besides, I probably couldn't get the bandwidth from the hotel to back up that amount of data, particularly since photo 'production' is non-linear, one day I took 2 photos, the next I took several hundred.)

I'm not whining here, just trying to lay down some data.

June 07 2011 at 6:38 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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