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Yes, there will be iCloud web apps

Since Steve Jobs unveiled iCloud at WWDC, many current MobileMe subscribers and potential iCloud users have wondered what will happen to the current web-based offerings for contacts, calendars, email and so forth. Josh Topolsky of This is my next claims that Apple PR has confirmed the current web-based interface will go away, replaced entirely by iCloud's new services.

Topolsky's point is that since Steve Jobs said nothing about iCloud having a browser-based interface option at WWDC, it means such an option will never exist. He also has confirmed that Apple's PR folk told him straight up that there will not be web access to calendar, email and contacts.

However, as Daring Fireball's John Gruber notes, "there is no reason to assume that iCloud as it will exist 12 months from now will be limited to what was announced one week ago." Considering we're more than a year away from MobileMe's permanent expiration date, that's a pretty big leap to make, even with the direct comment from Apple -- and it's one that's unsupported by evidence a MacRumors reader dug up.

According to MacRumors, a reader sent a calendar reminder to himself via iOS 5 and was able to view it on iCloud.com in his browser. Except for minor differences in branding, the iCloud interface was nearly identical to MobileMe's existing browser-based interface. If Apple were indeed planning on doing away with the web interface once iCloud launches, it seems odd for it to offer the service during beta testing (with the iCloud branding, no less).

While Steve Jobs has allegedly confirmed that iWeb and iWeb-based site hosting will be discontinued, multiple sources have seen evidence in both OS X Lion and iOS 5 that iDisk (or something similar) will still exist when iCloud launches. Additionally, the makings for a "Find My Mac" service have been seen in OS X Lion, and if such a service weren't accessible from a browser-based interface it would be all but useless.

Those who have speculated that Apple will discontinue its web-based MobileMe offerings once iCloud launches have yet to provide a compelling reason why Apple would do so. The potential advantage of simplifying device-data syncing would be more than offset by the very real disadvantage of never being able to access your data from any device other than those you've already registered with iCloud. Apple has to be smart enough to know that current MobileMe users occasionally have to access their data from computers other than their own, and locking iCloud users out from doing the same thing would be a huge misstep.

Yes, I believe there will be iCloud web apps. What shape they'll take remains to be seen, but even if Apple simply swaps the MobileMe branding out for iCloud and keeps the existing MobileMe codebase for the browser-based interface, that should be more than enough for most people's needs if they're trying to access iCloud from someone else's device.



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Those who have speculated that Apple will discontinue its web-based MobileMe offerings once iCloud launches have yet to provide a compelling reason why Apple would do so.
 

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brianashe@mac.com

I still want to know what will happen to plain old iDisk. I work with a large organization that uses it extensively.

June 14 2011 at 1:10 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
minimalist2001

"Apple has to be smart enough to know that current MobileMe users occasionally have to access their data from computers other than their own, and locking iCloud users out from doing the same thing would be a huge misstep."

I sincerely hope you are right. I really do. But given that Apple so often chooses the less is more approach when designing their products and services (surely streaming AND downloads would be better than downloads only for iTunes in the cloud, right?) I would not hold my breath. Add in the fact that they are unceremoniously dumping iWeb, iDisk, and Mobile Me Galleries (the last of which is indeed very useful for sharing full sized photos) and that there was not a peep made about iCloud web access at WWDC (one would think such a feature might make at least some bullet list during a 30 minute presentation) I'm not holding my breath. There is nothing about it on ther iCloud website site either. There are lots of pictures showing Macs, iPhones, and iPads running native apps all synching up to cute cloud, and there is a single reference to the service synching with Outlook on a PC, but there is not one image that shows a browser interface. Web access was prominently displayed on the Mobile Me site from day one. Its absence on the iCloud site says a lot. Apple marketing does not piecemeal a website. http://www.apple.com/icloud/features/contacts-calendar-mail.html

I really want for web access to iCloud to be true because I am a heavy MM user. But I have come to realize over the years that with Apple you should always expect them to leave something important out for the sake of "clarity" or "simplicity".

June 14 2011 at 12:57 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Matt Barnes

i'm confused. when i watched the keynote from last week, i definitely remember Jobs saying that the key apps from MobileMe have been completely rewritten for iCloud. i'm not sure how this is unclear. now, it's true that he didn't show any web-interface demos, but he said that the MobileMe apps have been rewritten. he didn't just say "they're going to sync between your devices." he referred to them as apps.

i guarantee that there will be a web interface for those apps.

June 14 2011 at 10:18 AM Report abuse +1 rate up rate down Reply
macfreakbudda

I use the web interface at work all the time since there are times that I'm not allowed access to personal cell phones and I sure as Hell am not going to add my personal email account info to my work station's Outlook. It's really gonna piss me off if there isn't a web based client to use when I can't access my iPhone (or don't have a wireless signal) but I do have access to the web. In reference to the Find My Phone/Mac app, I certainly hope the future version includes a way to add accounts to the app and have a master password. When there's 6-7 iPhone users in the family and several laptops, it's really hard to remember all the accounts and passwords if I needed to assist in a pinch and going back and forth between a password manager is tedious. I should be able to leave my wife, mother, kids, etc., in the app for quick access.

June 14 2011 at 9:13 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Josh Marketis

"Topolsky seems to be working under the assumption that because Steve Jobs said nothing about iCloud having a browser-based interface option at WWDC, it means such an option will never exist."

He's not working under any "assumption". Apple told him the web interface would be going away. That PR person could be wrong (Find my [apple device name here] needs a web interface and they just refreshed mail and calendar, so it makes little sense), but there is no assumption. Its what he was told...

June 14 2011 at 8:02 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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JonniKuest

According to @Chronic (who correctly predicted unlocked iphones today) there must've been some miscommunication with the PR guy. Also, am I the only one who heard Steve Jobs say from the stage that the Mail, Contacts and Calendar iCloud apps were rewritten from the ground up. Wouldnt that also include the webapps, since there is no real "App" for iCloud? Thats how i took it.

June 14 2011 at 10:24 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Brad Clark

One thing that was missing from the iCloud announcement and subsequent postings (rumour or actual) from any site that reports on Apple is the future of iWork.com.

I understand that 'native apps on all devices' is Apple's cloud model, but for those that are looking for an alternative to Google Docs and Microsoft Office 365, surely a continuation of the MobileMe web apps (mail, calendars, contacts, storage) coupled with iWork.com (word processing, presentation development and spreadsheets) would be an attractive offering.

The products are there now, I never understood why apple didn't offer iWork.com in the MobileMe environment at least to subscribers anyway... Also, if your phone and windows or google chrome book are all you have available to you at a certain time, surely working with a web interface would be better than your phone, at the very least for spreadsheets...

June 14 2011 at 6:14 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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Colin Chapman

So true. Although, now with "documents in the cloud" it only makes sense to have a web editor/access to those documents as well. With that being said, I've never really seen the point of the current iWork.com.

June 14 2011 at 6:42 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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