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Intuit's Aaron Patzer hints at Apple licensing Rosetta

One of the big changes coming next month with the release of Mac OS X 10.7 Lion is that apps that operate under Rosetta, the code libraries that allow PowerPC-based apps to run on Intel-based Mac hardware, may no longer work under the new operating system.

Current developer previews of Lion do not include Rosetta, a gentle reminder from Apple to developers that they need to free their apps from any PPC-era code. For Intuit, the makers of Quicken for Mac 2007, rewriting their app from scratch was cost-prohibitive. Now it appears that Apple might license portions of the Rosetta code to developers who don't have the time or money to rewrite their apps.

In an interview published today by The Mac Observer, Intuit vice president and general manager of the Personal Finance Group Aaron Patzer noted that his team has been working closely with Apple for several months to embed certain Rosetta libraries into Quicken for Mac 2007 just for the purpose of getting the app to run under Lion. According to Patzer, that project won't see fruition until the end of the summer, which means that folks who are enamored with Quicken 2007 might have to wait to upgrade to Lion.

There are, of course, other personal finance solutions available for the Mac platform. Patzer is the man behind Mint.com, an highly-touted online personal finance site that was purchased by Intuit. Intuit's own Lion-friendly Quicken Essentials (screenshot above) is a possibility, although many Quicken 2007 users refuse to switch since Essentials lacks the bill paying and investment tracking functions that were in the earlier version of the software. TUAW readers often cite iBank as a much more capable Mac finance app.

Patzer's comments should be welcome news to developers who are behind the proverbial eight-ball in terms of making their apps Lion-ready.



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cpragman

So the article came out in June, it is now October. None of this came true. Nice reporting, and nice head fake, Intuit.

October 12 2011 at 10:28 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
travellingman42

I'll bet Apple execs are pissed that Patzer let that cat out of the bag.

August 08 2011 at 12:52 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Miguelitosd

Man, I hope nomachine hurries up and builds their nxclient binary on intel. That's the only thing I have left that is still 100% ppc code. Just the nxclient binary itself too, basically the shell that calls the universal nxssh binary and x86_64 binary /usr/NX/bin/* files. Why it's still only pcc, I don't know. I recall there being issues for a few weeks after 10.6 first came out too.

June 19 2011 at 3:07 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Rob

What the heck was Intuit thinking making their code so specific? It's a financial program, you should be able to write it all in C and Objective-C without anything processor specific. And why does it take 6+ years to update it?

June 18 2011 at 10:02 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Stan

I thought this was a joke, but then saw it wasn't April. What a deep pocketed company like Intuit can't make a proper Mac 64 bit, Intel version of Quicken? The PPC transition happened 5 years ago! This isn't some poor indie developer that deserves our pity; this is an indifferent PC-centric developer that want's mac users' $$'s but won't put in the effort to earn them.

June 18 2011 at 4:45 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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Roberto

Intuit is an expert at keep track of money… Mainly it's own… I actually won't touch the company with 100 foot poll. If you are going to use their product, which in my personal opinion hazard against. I would purchase a PC and then purchase Inuit software… They know who their money marker is… And it isn't the mac community… 

June 19 2011 at 3:43 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Jan Steinman

If anyone needed a competitor, it's Intuit. What's with the US Department of "Just Us" letting Intuit purchase their competitors without any anti-trust investigation?

Developers, listen up: I would purchase a Quicken knock-off in a second. And my professional bookkeeper spouse would switch all her clients over, as well. Intuit has taken the Apple community for granted for too long! (Extra points -- and dollars -- for easy, two-way communication with MySQL. We have to write the bits that Intuit doesn't do in a database, and MySQL will come standard with Lion.)

June 17 2011 at 6:50 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
slembcke

So the reason why Rosetta stopped working with Lion is Apple decided that they aren't going to compile PPC versions of their libraries anymore for the PPC code to link to. If this article is true, then it means that Apple has the libraries compiled as PPC, but they'll only give them to companies (with money) and not their users.

I really have to stop being so foolish and buying games for the Mac...

June 17 2011 at 6:15 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
SSteve

I'm happy to hear this. As much as I hate to say it, I'm stuck with Quicken for now. I have almost twenty years of investment transactions that no other Mac software can currently deal with. The lack of Rosetta will keep me from upgrading to Lion on my main Mac. Hopefully, Intuit will eventually come up with a modern Quicken that can replace Quicken 2007. Until then, I'm trapped.

June 17 2011 at 5:37 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
randian

I wonder why Intuit would invest such resources in a 4 year old obsolete program instead of its current product, Quicken Essentials. Then again, I'm told that incompatibility with the Windows product is a matter of deliberate policy at Intuit. I also wonder why Apple lets Intuit's President to stay on their board. What value does Intuit deliver to Apple?

June 17 2011 at 5:18 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
DEEmery

And WHY would anyone buy an application from a developer who is too (bleeping) cheap to actually develop for the current/future platform? That's particularly true of a company with deep pockets such as Intuit.

June 17 2011 at 1:42 PM Report abuse +3 rate up rate down Reply
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Doug Otto

Absolutely, I refuse to buy a new application that's non universal and in some cases 32-bit. That said, I am a professional photographer and use an older Epson printer that would stop working properly if I upgraded to Lion without Rosetta support. $29 is a no-brainer upgrade but for me it'd be closer to $1000.

I see this as no difference than the dust-up that Vista caused by rendering a lot of useful hardware inoperable.

June 17 2011 at 2:13 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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