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IGG Software, iBank and its climb from one-man shop to Intuit competitor

You probably haven't heard of IGG Software, but you will. It's the company behind the popular Mac and iOS financial software iBank and it's about to send a knock out blow to finance giant Intuit. So how did iBank climb from a single-man operation to its position as one of the top financial apps for the Mac? Let's dig into some company history to find out.

IGG Software started eight-years ago as a single-man operation in Southern California. Ian Gillespie was a graduate student working in plant biology when he wrote his first Mac application to keep track of his field work. When he couldn't find suitable software to help him manage his budget, Gillespie decided to write his own solution.

That was in the mid-2000s when Quicken was a household name. Intuit, though, was about to make several costly mistakes which would cause it to fall from grace among Mac users. Quicken 2007 was the gold standard when it was introduced, but Intuit was slow to update the app. The software title never moved beyond its PowerPC code and Intuit instead focused on Quicken Essentials for Mac, a lackluster title that didn't have all the features of Quicken 2007.

The nail in the coffin of Quicken was the announcement of Mac OS X Lion. Lion didn't support older PowerPC apps like Quicken 2007, and, suddenly, Intuit's flagship software was obsolete. The company initially shrugged this off, but changed its mind late last year when it said it would would make Quicken 2007 compatible with Lion.

On the mobile side, Intuit failed to develop an iOS app for either Quicken 2007 or Quicken Essentials. It's not that Intuit doesn't care about the iOS App Store; it has a variety of apps for other products like TurboTax and Quickbooks. For some reason, official Quicken companion apps are noticeably absent.

While Intuit was stumbling, IGG Software was plugging away at iBank. iBank continued to grow in popularity as an alternative to Quicken. The software was in the Mac App Store from the start and climbed to the top of the App Store's Finance category. IGG also released an iPhone app that can be used as a stand-alone money manager or synced with the desktop app.

The company is now working on an iPad version, likely called iBank Access, that'll hit the App Store soon. Unbeknownst to many, IGG quietly grabbed two ex-Intuit engineers who are now working on that project. The company also recently announced Direct Access, a paid service that'll automatically download new transactions when you launch the iBank Access app.

We spent some time talking to IGG's chief architect James Gillespie, who joined his brother Ian's company in 2008. Gillespie now oversees iBank and other software projects within the company. Here is what he had to say about iBank Access, the Mac App Store and more.

TUAW: What was the turning point when you realized you could seriously compete with Intuit's Quicken 2007?

Gillespie: Ever since I joined IGG in 2008 it has been about writing the best Mac apps. We are competing with Quicken since we are all in the personal financial space but that has not been a driving force. We just want to do the best features for our customers and that focus has led to our current position in the market, which I think is great.

TUAW: Any sales figures or download numbers you care to share with us?

Gillespie: We are very happy with our downloads and sales numbers. They have been increasing every year since our first product shipped. But we don't share actual numbers.

TUAW: What about the Mac App Store, has it been a boon for your business?

Gillespie: As soon as it was announced we said we had to be there. That was just what we thought a Mac app should do. At the time we were selling boxed copies in the Apple Stores, at Amazon, in Office Depot and other retailers as well as our online store. We want to be where people are thinking about getting Mac software so this was just a natural extension.

We had no idea what to expect from the Mac App Store when it first went live. Would it add to sales, or just cannibalize sales from other channels? We had a lot of ideas about what might happen but no idea what would happen. So far it has been a great ride, it has turned into our second largest channel, just ahead of our boxed channel, and behind our own online store. In fact we saw sales through our own site grow rapidly throughout year, so the Mac App Store didn't seem to take business away at all. We have also been fairly happy with the speed of Apple's approval process when we are getting updates out to our customers.

TUAW: You have a Mac OS X app, an iPhone app, and soon an iPad app. What's next for iBank? What's next for IGG? Do you plan to expand beyond iBank, iBiz and iPaste with any other finance or non-finance titles?

Gillespie: We don't like to announce anything until we are completely confident of the timing and functionality. Right now we have way more ideas than people to execute them. In general I can say that we plan on building out iBank and iBiz on Mac and iOS so that each has the correct feature set for the device it is on. We also have a lot of new features that we would like to add to each product. There is one in particular that we are really excited to be working on, but we are not ready to announce anything. Right now we don't have any brand new titles on our road map, but we do have some exciting ideas for where to take our existing product lines.

TUAW: Could you comment on your development team and how you assembled it? I hear you have fresh, new talent that has come over from Intuit. Why would they leave a position with a large, stable company to join a start-up?

Gillespie: We have been building up an incredibly strong development team. We believe in hiring the right people for the right job, not just filling a seat with someone. So everyone here at IGG is great at what they do. Over the last year we have hired new two developers who used to work for Intuit. These guys were two core members of a small team that developed TurboTax for the iPad and lead Mac development for the personal tax group for 14 years.

I am not sure I would call IGG a start-up - we have been around for eight years, though certainly it is a much smaller company than Intuit. I think that the reason they decided to join IGG is that they are really passionate about making the best Mac and iOS apps. They are enthusiastic about working in a company whose focus is squarely on Mac and iOS products. Part of that is making really complex tasks, like personal finance, easy to understand. We are very excited they chose to join our team.

TUAW: iBank Access is similar to Mint. How do you plan to differentiate your service? Why would someone choose iBank over Mint?

Gillespie: They are similar but in some ways very different. The comparison is being made because both update account data automatically from thousands of financial institutions. But Mint is first and foremost a website, so all of their customers' financial data lives in the cloud. They do have a native app for iOS that provides a nice front end to their site, but my understanding is that Mint generates revenue by recommending financial products to its customers. So really Mint offers some free tools in exchange for all of its customers financial information and the opportunity to market to them.

We just don't feel right about that business model. We feel that our customers financial information is between them and their bank. With iBank Access, we don't store it, we don't see it, we don't want any part of it. All we want to do is make a high-quality product that provides value to people and have people pay a bit for that value. Because of that we have made iBank Access a very full-featured app. You will be able to track your entire investment history - not just your current holdings. It will have advanced budgeting tools that are incredibly easy to set up and tell at a glance how you are doing and how you have done in the past. You can split transactions and still have them match with what your bank has reported to the app. We have interactive charts and graphs so that all of your data is just a tap away and yet still easy to understand.

So in most ways iBank Access is more like our desktop product, iBank for Mac, than it is like Mint. With that in mind, we had to figure out how to split the difference between serving users who want to use it strictly as an iPad app, and existing iBank for Mac customers who want an add-on. For the latter's sake, we'll be keeping the app price low and enabling sync between iBank Access and the desktop version. If they don't need the Direct Access updating on the iPad, it won't matter and won't cost them any extra.

TUAW: Where do you see iBank in 2-years from now? 5-years from now?

Gillespie: This is a tough question to answer. I know the features I would like to see iBank and iBiz have in five years. But I can't really talk about them yet. I think in some ways we want to be what we are today, delivering the best product we can for the Mac and iOS.

TUAW: Will iBank Mobile be ported to Android? or Windows Phone?

Gillespie: We don't have any plans to, we don't have many customers asking for it, and we have a lot on our plate already. Our focus is still 100% on the Mac and iOS.

TUAW: There's lots of pressure for companies to seek out investors. Are you VC-funded or self-funded?

Gillespie: We are self funded and we have turned down offers for investment. We are not in this to make a quick buck and then sell to some larger company or go public and then get out. We are in this for the long haul because this is what we like to do.

TUAW: What do you think of the future mobile commerce? What role will IGG or iBank play, if any?

Gillespie: I think that mobile commerce will be huge. I love using my Starbucks app to pay for coffee. I think mobile credit card processing with Square, Inc. is really interesting. I don't see iBank competing with the transaction processing side. We are more involved with traditional personal finance management: the decision to make a purchase, or how to plan your cash flow.



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AMCarter3

This is a decent article, but it avoids some of the truth about iBank. I am one of the many disenchanted 20+ yr Quicken users. I participated actively in the Quicken Essentials beta test group for 12 months hoping Intuit would "get it right". Like so many others, I was incredibly disappointed in the final outcome. What a missed opportunity!

Like many others, I have given up on Intuit. I no longer trust them. After my extensive testing of iBank, MoneyDance, Moneywell, Fortora, iBank, SEE Finance, iFinance, Money, iCompta, etc., I chose iBank 15 mos. ago. It is definitely not ideal and it is NOT the "Gold Standard" they claim in their advertising. It does serve my basic needs... as long as I ignore the fact that I cannot get the reports I desire, cannot create a meaningful budget and have to tolerate many time wasting design defects that impact daily use.

What really baffles me is why IGG continues to ignore the mounds of feedback and pleas of so many users to fix known bugs and the many user unfriendly design deficiencies that irritate so many users. So, now I speak up on forums such as this hoping IGG is listening. iBank is a good base. It addresses, more or less, virtually ALL of the feature capabilities most people want in a personal finance program. It is fast and handles downloading transactions flawlessly. In my view, it is currently the best of the bunch.

March 09 2012 at 11:42 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Ian

iBank is good, but needs a lot of work, especially on all the bugs which seem to be ignored by the dev team.

February 27 2012 at 12:52 PM Report abuse -1 rate up rate down Reply
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AMCarter3

Sorry, in error I clicked on the MINUS button. I meant to hit the PLUS button. What you say is 100% accurate. I will add that in the last 15 months I have used iBank, along with many others users, I have provided IGG with feedback on over 30 specific design flaws and/or bugs that affect everyday use. The issues I have addressed were also issues addressed by many other users. Over the last 15 months, I'm not sure a single issue has been fixed in their updates. The updates seem to address issues that, for the most part, seem to bear no relationship to customer feedback. From my perspective, IGG is developing a reputation for NOT listening and responding to customer feedback. Does this story sound familiar?

March 09 2012 at 11:50 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Scott

So, this is just an article that is praising iBank without discussing its hundreds of negatives and problems? iBank doesn't even come CLOSE to Quicken... we've officially reported close to 100 bugs in iBank that haven't been fixed in the product in years, the reporting features in iBank are ABYSMAL (we can't even get our end-of-the-year tax reports out of iBank, so now we're being held hostage with our own data), the technical support team takes 5-6 weeks to respond to users, and the product is missing tons of features that Quicken had. So we wholeheartedly disagree with you that iBank is giving Quicken a run for its money. We think the other people giving negative reviews to iBank on both amazon and the app store would agree as well.

February 22 2012 at 4:40 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Steve

Ibank user here for five years or so. I gather from the comments that it's not for everyone, but it works great for me - my needs are relatively simple - keeping track of 10 or so bank accounts that are all fairly active, and some relatively simple investment stuff. For this it's fantastic, and I have no complaints about the reports, they suit my needs perfectly (but I'm the kind of person who complains about stuff to the developers rather than here, so the stuff I want gets implemented).

February 20 2012 at 11:22 PM Report abuse +1 rate up rate down Reply
Paul S

I gave up on iBank -- the Roach motel of financial software -- you can check your data in, but it won't get out! The reporting is abysmal. The eye candy is great - especially nice is the ability to scan a receipt and attach it to a charge or check entry. But if you can't slice and dice the output, you are just having a good time shoving data down the black hole.

And if you are not into intra-day stock trading, forget the portfolio management: If you buy Vanguard Total Stock Market on Tuesday for $30.45 in account 1, and buy more on Tuesday in account 2, iBank will have no idea what the price is -- either for account 2, nor for your stock price history.. duh.... it only changes once per day. The portfolio will often show the price as $0.00 -- because you never went to the place they think you should go to enter the stock prices. Which reminds me -- why are all my stock price timelines shown out to the year 4013??????

The good solution is to run Quicken 2007 on an old mac mini running OSX 10.4 and screen sharing from my Lion laptop to enter the data, and run reports and save to excel in a dropbox folder.

It is very nice that someone is standing up to the Intuit disrespect for OSX (or is it the Apple disrespect for users with needs for multi-year legacy applications) I just had to go back through some tax files and do you think Lion would open my TurboTax application from 2002???? Do I need to do that? Yup!

I think that Intuit's promise to solve the Rosetta problem is encouraging. Someone other than Apple needs to look out for those of us who plan to live beyond the next 18 months.

February 20 2012 at 8:19 PM Report abuse +1 rate up rate down Reply
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Patrick H Madden

I'll agree that the reporting in iBank is not particularly spectacular, but it has been reliable and zero-grief otherwise. WRT exporting data -- it can export qif files (although I'll admit that I've never tried to import them elsewhere).

After dealing with all the Intuit BS, I was pretty much determined to never use them for anything again. iBank was at the right place, at the right time, with a decent product. Not stellar, but I feel like I can rely on it, and it gets used on a daily basis.

February 20 2012 at 9:18 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Liz I.

It was a pretty dark time last summer when I realized I'd need to "transition" from Quicken, which I'd used since 1993. However, I picked iBank and I couldn't be happier. It did take "a while" to import all my accounts (which I did one by one). I just finished my (relatively complex) 2011 taxes and all is right in my financial world. I also use the iPhone app (on my iPad) and the syncing process is seamless. Thank you, iBank. (And goodbye, Quicken.)

I should add that iBank gave me excellent personal troubleshooting help when I was setting up iBank on my iPhone and iPad.

February 20 2012 at 5:45 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
aperak fungisid

I tried iBank as a replacement for Quicken. iBank was abysmal. It couldn't import my Quicken data properly. It couldn't calculate my simple fixed-rate mortgage. I am very happy with Moneydance.

February 20 2012 at 2:15 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
aperak fungisid

I tried iBank as a replacement for Quicken. iBank was abysmal. It couldn't import my Quicken data properly. It couldn't calculate my simple fixed-rate mortgage. I am very happy with Moneydance.

February 20 2012 at 2:14 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
CaptSaltyJack

Blech. As an interface designer, I have to say iBank's interface is horrible. Just look at it. Not clean at all, it's cluttered and a wreck. Compare it to a financial app like Squirrel. There's just no contest.

February 20 2012 at 1:39 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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Liz I.

Have you actually used iBank? Virtually everything can be scaled down or hidden. At it's most basic, the interface is positively Zen-like. And it's reports are a thing of beauty especially when compared to Quicken.)

February 20 2012 at 5:49 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Liz I.

Have you actually used iBank? Virtually everything can be scaled down or hidden. At it's most basic, the interface is positively Zen-like. And it's reports are a thing of beauty especially when compared to Quicken.)

February 20 2012 at 5:58 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Joshua Miller

Just before I upgraded to Lion I was looking on the Mac App Store for software to replace Quicken 2007. After a bit of research I settled on iBank without really knowing much about the company. This article gives me comfort that the one I chose has staying power and should improve over the years.

February 20 2012 at 12:41 PM Report abuse +1 rate up rate down Reply
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