Intel Mac tweakers having trouble, kill iMacs in process
An interesting thread has popped up over at the Nakfull Propaganda blog regarding
getting Linux or Windoze to boot on the new Intel iMac Core Duo's. Since the new Intel Macs don't have Open
Firmware and instead have EFI (Extensible Firmware
Interface), some enterprising people have been trying to munge around in EFI to get other OSes installed.So far, no one has managed to get Linux or Winblows to run on the iMac Core Duo, but some people have managed to irreversible kill a few iMacs (and are returning them to Apple without mentioning how they butchered the machines). The entire thread makes for fascinating reading, vacillating between the religious:
"THIS IS A CHALLENGE. WE SHALL NOT REST UNTIL ALL 3 OSs HAVE BEEN INSTALLED SUCCESSFULLY ON THE NEW MACS."
and extremely poetic geek-speak:
"And this is with the entire contents of the Vista 5270 32-bit EFI installation DVD copied over to either its own Mac OS Extended partition or a FAT32 partition on a GPT volume."
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I am sure there are a growing number of Mac users like myself that work as consultants and have a need to interface with our clients. In many enterprise environments there is a need to run IE, because of custom developed web apps targeted for a common client platform, and MS-Project and Visio.
Entourage works well instead of Outlook. Word, Excel and PowerPoint are mostly OS transparent. But there is still a need to run some windows only applications. I therefore believe there will be a growing demand for Windows virtualization on the Mac platform. I don't want dual boot. I believe people will want to be able to run Windows or Windows applications within windows on OS X. We want to stay in the Aqua environment while dipping in to Windows applications for specific needs.
For consultants using a PowerBook or MacBook Pro carrying around an additional windows machine is not always feasible.
Ryan Heise wrote:
"It is akin to giving yourself cancer with the hope that you will find a cure.
Oops. You died."
ROFLOL.
Excuse me, but we want people to run Windows on Macs! People will buy them, safe and secure that they can run their 'gotta have' windows applications and fall in love with the unixy goodness of OS X. It's all about the market share, guys. More Macs equal more programs written for them...
January 24 2006 at 8:12 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI think it's amusing that Apple has done this. I think the common perception was that as soon as the Intel Macs got released that people would be running Windows in no time flat. Apple said they would be locking down their framework and obviously they've done a good job of that.
January 24 2006 at 1:44 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Reply(found this on the blog about bricked iMacs)
By following these steps, the iMacs that had difficulty with certain EFI modules appear to have been restored to a functioning state:
1. Disconnect the internal hard disk
2. Disconnect the iMac from AC power
3. Plug in AC while holding the power button
4. Power up the iMac and zap NVRAM (cmd-opt-P-R)
The hard disk can be reformatted and the operating system restored.
#4,6.. and other people asking why put on windows.
Because the iMac is a decent spec system by any standards. And if you can play games, use other proprietary software and the like (you know the advantages of windows) then why hold back.
I think Apple should have implemented a method to put on Windows (which really isn't as bad as you Macheads say). Don't get me wrong I miss my powerbook and am anxiously awaiting the Mac Mini. It's just sometimes nice to have those programs previously Windows only every once in awhile.
'Please don't use the terms "Windoze", "Winblows" or "M$", it makes you sound like an idiot and very unprofessional.'
You're kidding right ? Why don't you grow up ?
I'm terribly sad to have to relate this to you, but just because someone fails to follow your personal preferences in nomenclature DOES NOT make them idiotic or unprofessional, nor does it make them sound that way (to anyone except egotists who think that they're the pinnacle of professionalism and propriety, and who go around telling others how 'wrong' their language is).
I guess I may be in the minority around here but I look forward to the Linux community being able to boot on a Mac. Obviously it's going to happen sooner or later, but it's a lot more likely to happen with Linux before it happens with a version of Windows. Just like there is a place for Yellow Dog, there will be a place for SuSe or Fedora. I'm looking forward to Ubuntu myself.
Why anyone would want to "brick" their Mac to get Windows on it is beyond me though. Don't misunderstand me. I'm not saying there isn't a place for Microsoft on a Mac, but I, for one, would just wait for VPC8 rather than ruin a perfectly good system. The argument that, "I don't wanna pay for a new copy of the operating system when I already own one," doesn't fly when you spend over a $1000 on a brand new doorstop.
I understand the excitement of doing something nobody's ever done before - I'm a coder too. But that's an expensive risk to take.
...Here's to fast user switching with multiple OSes in '07!
"Please don't use the terms "Windoze", "Winblows" or "M$", it makes you sound like an idiot and very unprofessional."
well, down here, we call it what sounds like "Winders." Yes, it sounds stupid, but that's how I write it, too.
And I can't wait to get an iMac I can boot with OS X and run Winders in a virtual machine. To be able to run Win32 progs at native speed will make Macs much more welcome in the workplace... keep the networking, web browsing, and perhaps e-mail on the secure Mac side, while being able to use Outlook calendaring, among other apps not available on the Mac side...
If you really want to run Windows just buy or build a PC. Apple should void the warranties of these Macs.
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