Thoughts on iPhone Apps Management
I don't know about you, but those new longer iPhone syncs are just killing me. Once an App has been backed up, I don't see why Apple doesn't just back up the Documents and Library data rather than backing up entire applications every single time the iPhone connects.
What I've been doing is keeping just one or two apps on the iPhone at a time. That's fine for when you're developing and reviewing apps but it absolutely stinks when you want to carry the iPhone around and actually use your applications on demand. After all -- why bother buying them if you have to keep taking them off in order to save on sync time?
The worst offenders are the games. Full of yummy sound effects and graphics, they take up the most room during syncs and generally the software I least want to take off my iPhone.
You can disable automatic syncing for iPhones and iPods in the Preferences > Syncing settings pane in iTunes but it's an option with high risk, especially when updated data is important to you.
Here's hoping that Apple smartens up its backups and starts storing just changed data rather than every bit of every application.
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I don't know about you, but those new longer iPhone syncs are just killing me. Once an App has been backed up, I don't see why Apple...
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Erica, I'm rather upset at the way that authentication of app ownership is being handled. Yesterday I discovered a way to transfer an app downloaded/purchased on one computer by my iTunes account to a different computer, and register it with a different account, and it works, and is able to sync and run. I really want to disclose this technique, as I am working on an app for submission, and I don't want my app hacked so easily.
July 15 2008 at 3:56 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyOh, specifically I want this problem disclosed, so that Apple can FIX IT.
July 15 2008 at 4:04 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI don't mind the back ups...
But... I hate that iPhoto opens every time you sync it....
even if you dont have any new pictures...
Maybe someone already said it but iPhones are going to be insanely cluttered with apps now. Even after adding only a handful, it's a lot to look at and navigate. We needs stacks or app folders on the home screen.
July 15 2008 at 9:16 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Replyperhaps mobileme will be useful after all
July 15 2008 at 3:09 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyMy address book also is not synching properly. One person would not sync, and when I added him on the iphone and sync-ed, I had two in my address book. It's a bummer. Deleting the computer version worked, for some odd reason.
But yeah, clicking the x during backup skips that, and problem is solved. Guess when there's time, you should let that backup occur. I'm gonna maybe let it happen once a week, maybe while I'm time machining.
OK.. turn on "manually manage music and videos" and STOP SYNCING. You don't HAVE to sync anymore. This BUG was fixed (I think) with 1.1.4. Now when you want to add music just drag it over. Add movies by dragging them over. They don't even have to be in iTunes first. You can drag right from finder to the iPhone icon under Devices in iTunes.
No sync = no backup. You should still sync every now and then to force a backup.
So, first we bitch and whine about wanting, absolutely, apps on iPhone; Apple provides, and does so in a manner that provides a safe and secure environment (i.e. sandboxing); that comes with a price - longer synch times.
Now, what I find the most astoundingly hilarious, though, is how Erica on one hand states how she dumps tons of apps on her iPhone, and the in the same breath complains how doing so takes up more space on her precious iPhone - no, duh, really?
The answer to it is called 'Application Management', which involves a thing called 'intelligence' and 'discipline'.
The intelligence part is in figuring out to set your Sync settings to 'manually' sync applications, and to ONLY set the applications you need on the iPhone. Then, to only set those apps you want sync'd to be marked (i.e. the ones you need to have data backed up from).
The discipline part comes from not just downloading everything you see marked 'free' and leaving it on the iPhone.
Yes, sure, that takes some effort - but to quote John Gruber "It also takes time to shower and brush your teeth each day."
This endless bitching coming from Erica is getting really old, really fast - We get it, Erica - Apple can do nothing right, ever. Talk about holding a grudge - she screws up once, and keeps blaming Apple forever...
The endless drudgery coming from you is getting old too, pal. Your obvious obsession with stalking Erica is a little disturbing.
July 15 2008 at 9:10 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI think I recall seeing that all data for any given application is actually stored in the App bundle itself, not in a central location. For security and containment reasons...so backing up just the data probably isn't an option...
July 15 2008 at 1:21 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyHi Drew,
I've had a poke around (And I'll bet Erica also has already) and found that you're correct.
All the apps are sandboxed, so it stands to reason to keep everything in the App folder. :/
I agree with the complaints about the long sync time, except that with MobileMe push working just fine, I am syncing way less often.
July 15 2008 at 1:12 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI not really sure why we need to backup anything really -once it syncs the calendar and contacts, ect and off-loads the purchased apps and songs from the phone if any - the important backup is already on the computer. This long wait is unnecessary - obviously a bug that Apple should address right away.
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