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Count The Beats: Interview with a film & TV composer

Pieter's been in the music business for the last five years working on a whole lot of tunes for film, TV and gaming. From CSI New York to composing in "French" for The Sims 3, he's got a wealth of experience in this field and, must be mentioned, he's an avid reader of TUAW too.
When Pieter got in touch with us regarding our 'Count The Beats' series, and sent us the above picture of his studio, suffice to say that the TUAW offices descended into a flurry of excitement (papers flying in the air and everything). What can we say, we love a picture of an inspiring setup.
The logical next step was to sit down with Pieter and talk shop. Read on to find out how the complexities of this mighty setup come together, how the iPhone works as a part of the composing journey, a little bit on DAWs, the "dream upgrade" and how to get the job done when all else is failing.
A word of warning, there is some serious music tech geekery ahead. If in doubt, just pretend that it all makes sense and slowly nod your head, then move onto the next paragraph. That's what most of us do anyway!
Pieter A. Schlosser: I went to Berklee College of Music in Boston where I did a double major in 'Film Scoring' and 'Music Production & Engineering'. L.A. is about the only place to be when you want to write music for film, TV, games, etc. When I first got here in 2003, I started out as a runner at The Record Plant where I met a scoring mixer. Turns out he worked a lot on Hans Zimmer's scores, so through him I got to be an intern/runner at Hans Zimmer's place. Pretty soon after that, I started working for a composer who has his studio at Hans' place, Steve Jablonsky (Desperate Housewives, Transformers).
I started out as his tech doing all things tech related (keeping his studio running, updating software, coordinating studios, mix sessions, scoring sessions). Eventually, I started composing on his projects as well as doing stuff on my own outside of there. I've had the opportunity to meet lots of really great people in the business and I've had the privilege of working on some pretty big projects like 'Transformers', 'Gears of War 2', 'Desperate Housewives' both as a tech and as a composer.
TUAW: Wow, check out that rack! Your pics look pretty sweet, spill the beans on your setup?

PAS: This is a bit of a long answer, let's see how I can condense it.
My main machine (my sequencer) is a MacPro Quad 2.66 with 9GB of RAM on which I use Cubase, although from time to time I'll use Logic. There's a load of soft synths and effects on this machine, I'd say the most used are Native Instruments. My second machine is a PowerMac G5 Dual Core 1.8Ghz machine which I use to run ProTools HD3. I have 2 PC's that I use as my samplers running Win XP (32bit) with Plogue as host running Tascam GVI and Kontakt. These PC's get triggered with Midi Over LAN.
I have an RME RayDAT card as my main audio card, T.C. Electronic PowerCore X8 and lots of HDD space including a Drobo (LOVE that thing...).
Controllers: CME UF8 master keyboard, Kenton Kontrol Freak and a Euphonix MC Mix (this is nice as I can use it to control both Cubase and ProTools all through the network) and finally, ADAM A-7 Speakers.
My sequencer and PC's are all routed (via ADAT) to my ProTools machine which I essentially use as my 'mixer' and video machine (synced using MTC).
TUAW: So you don't have a mac mini then?
PAS: No, I don't. Maybe at one point I might. When I can have audio and midi all going through the LAN reliably! Now that would be cool!
TUAW: Can you explain a little further how your setup actually works?
PAS: OK. Let's see. My sequencer triggers MIDI on my PCs through Music Lab's Midi Over LAN program. It's really great because I avoid having any extra MIDI interfaces! It's basically one ethernet cable per machine and a giga bit switcher.
As far as audio is concerned, once the MIDI triggers the sounds, the audio goes ADAT out (RME cards on both) of the PC's right into ProTools. They go into an RME ADI-648 ADAT to MADI converter and from here, it goes MADI into my SSL X-Logic Delta Link. My Sequencer does the same. From my RME RayDAT card i use in Cubase right into the ADAT to MADI converter (into ProTools).
In ProTools, I have inputs for all different 'food groups' (i.e. Long strings, short strings, Woodwinds, Long Brass, short brass, hi perc, mid perc, lo perc, Synths, etc etc). For my orchestral palette, I already have EQ's and reverbs set up as inserts in ProTools so there's not much messing with those once the template is set up.
I really love this setup because these 2 ONE UNIT interfaces (ADI-648 and SSL Delta Link) take the place of 3 Digi 192's. Saves me a lot of rack 'real estate'. (Hopefully I'm not getting too technical here... but ProTools users and audiophiles like me will know what I'm talking about)
TUAW: Uh, of course, please go on...
PAS: The 'last' step is MADI to ADAT converter into an RME Fireface 800 which does my D-A conversion into my monitors (Adam A-7's). As you can see, it's all digital until the very last step (although, the one thing I won't tell you is how I have a less than adequate Behringer mixer that I use as my volume knob! I know,..I know... That would be my next purchase, a proper volume control).
If I need to record something in my studio, I use the Fireface 800 for my mic pre's.
Here's a graph of my setup. (yes, I'm a geek, can you tell?)

TUAW: Right, now that we understand your rig, we noticed those PCs you use to hold your samples. As a composer, which do you find easier to work with, your Macs or your PCs?
PAS: Hands down my Macs. Any Mac lover will know why, but if you'd like me to tell you, here I go: OS X is a beautiful and stable operating system, it's very elegant and very easy to use.
TUAW: Naturally, we would agree with that! How would you change your setup if you could? What's your next upgrade path?
PAS: I think my next move might be to have only 2 Macs, especially now with Snow Leopard where RAM isn't much of an issue, as far as how much (RAM) I can load into them. That and a combination of SSD drives would be really beautiful.
TUAW: Oh yes, that would be a beautiful thing, lets take a minute and reflect... Right then, iPhones are incredibly hot cakes at the moment. At TUAW we are wondering if the iPhone will become a serious player in the realms of music production? Do you own an iPhone and does it practically and meaningfully help you in your line of work?
PAS: Yes and yes. The obvious things are basics like e-mail and facebook (which you can do on any other smart phone, of course).
TUAW: Of course, um... lets not go there! But, bar the business/admin side of things, does your iPhone feature in your music production work flow?
PAS: Let's see. I downloaded Smule's Ocarina which is fun. I have yet to use it on one of my projects, but I would like to! I've been wanting to buy GuitarToolkit as well. Seems like a really handy thing to have around.
TUAW: Oh yes, fancy that!
PAS: Sometimes I get ideas in my head that I record using the voice app to recall later. A while back I was walking my dog and I had to write a 'french' track for the SIMS 3 video game expansion pack. I took out my iPhone and sang a melody, that popped into my head, into Voice Memo, I ended up using it for the track! That's one example.
TUAW: Logic Pro or Pro Tools? (and why)
PAS: Actually, I mainly use Cubase. It's a really well designed program and the MIDI is great. I think it beats most DAW's out there. I have to say, though, I wish Cubase would come with the quality and quantity of instruments and EFX that Logic comes with as standard. I think, because of that, occasionally I end up using it (Logic).
TUAW: What's the best project you've worked on and why?
PAS: Hmm, hard question. Not sure. I'm working on a TV series at the moment that will air in January. So far it's been really great because of the people that I'm working with. There's a lot of heart in the show as well as the team who is working on it. That's really important to me.
TUAW: Do you want to do any name dropping at this point?
PAS: Well, let's see... Oh, I don't know. I'd love to, but it doesn't feel right! However, I did work on the soundtrack for 'Gears of War 2'. It was a real treat because I got to go to Skywalker Ranch where we recorded an orchestra.
TUAW: Gears of War 2, what a sweet game, and no less, a real orchestra on the sound track, alright! What about the worst project you've worked on?
PAS: I'm not sure I want to answer this question!
TUAW: What a true professional. Finally, it's a very rainy day, you have a huge deadline to meet, but your head is blocked, there's no tunes a'comin. What do you do?
PAS: It seems when you have too much time, you tend to throw out lots of ideas left and right. When you don' t have the luxury of time, you work on ONE idea, commit to it and MAKE IT WORK!

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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
Brian said 7:32AM on 10-13-2009
great post.. id love to see more like this..
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jftreko said 8:16AM on 10-13-2009
Me too, very in-depth longer form post. I think the only thing I'd change about the setup is a swapping out that Behringer mixer for something a bit better.
http://www.cadenceapp.com . Your Music. Your Motion.
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Pieter said 10:34AM on 10-13-2009
@JFtreko: oh, you don't have to tell me :-) (*bows head in shame...*).
I must admit I've neglected that part of my setup as sometimes I get 'software happy' and buy that stuff instead of a proper volume knob.
That is next on my list of priorities/gear!
jftreko said 10:40AM on 10-13-2009
Hey :-) Sorry to mention it. I've been through a few of those , they do serve a purpose. Your setup is well..Golden compared to mine so ..CheerS!
Le Vrai Slim Shadeuse said 8:25AM on 10-13-2009
I'd love to see more music related posts like this! Very informative and in-depth. Really cool to see the gear/workflow of Mac musicians.
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KomputarGuy said 9:15AM on 10-13-2009
I really enjoyed reading this.
I would like to see more of this type of stuff on TUAW. It seems like there hasn't been lately.
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PookieBadMuffin said 9:17AM on 10-13-2009
Yeah, more of this, please. Do it for the Perez Hilton fans.
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destructive cactus said 9:33AM on 10-13-2009
Awesome! I love articles like this. His DAW setup makes mine look miniscule in comparison; but then again, so do most.
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ccr said 9:57AM on 10-13-2009
love it! this is the stuff i want to see, and an interview with a fellow Berklee student!
very interesting and thankfully not dumbed down.
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THJ said 10:24AM on 10-13-2009
+1, I love posts like this. Great for ideas on improving your own setup, or just for general 'what to do with a bunch of extra gear' ideas. Thanks.
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scarlco said 11:50AM on 10-13-2009
Impressive setup. Question - are you using the PC's intentionally to offload processing power, or because you had them lying around and wanted to find a purpose for them in the mix? When I first switched over to Mac, I had a few beige boxes lying around... I felt terrible about wasting the technology. Used them as I could... NAS, Sampler, doorstop. Eventually, it was just a bigger pain to maintain the things, and they eventually faded away.
Love this post, by the way. Good read.
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Pieter said 12:51PM on 10-13-2009
@scarlco, thanks for reading the post! I'm grateful to Matt for taking the time for the interview!
The answer to your question is in part 'yes'.
It's also nice to have my sounds all readily available and not having to wait hours for tons of samples to load into RAM.
I have a template in Cubase that has all the midi tracks already set up and ready to go. I open the template and I'm ready to go.
The one thing I will say about these PC's is that, I set them up, and I leave them be and they've been pretty great and stable.
If you're looking for a great PC, check out the guys that built mine: www.visiondaw.com.
My friend Ryan builds these PC and they are ROCK solid.
mik said 2:13PM on 10-13-2009
@we know you secretly love Mrs Van De Kamp
Uh, caught..
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Jozue said 6:10PM on 10-13-2009
great post.. id love to see more like this..
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SWB said 7:08PM on 10-13-2009
Nice sax ... looks like a Yamaha ;-)
What wind controller is that? Doesn't look like a WX-5 or WX-7 ...
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Pieter said 7:35PM on 10-13-2009
Hey SWB. Thanks! :)
It's actually a Selmer Super Action 80. The Wind controller is an AKAI EWI4000s. I imagine you're a sax player as well?
Steve B said 7:49PM on 10-13-2009
Ah, a Selmer ...
I saw the black plastic thumb hook and thumbrest, which made me think Yamaha (I played a Yamaha YAS-62 for 18 years). I forgot that Selmers had those, too. (Just bought a Yanigisawa A-992 last year, and I love it. Tried a Selmer Series III ... It had a nice sound, but I couldn't get used to the keywork. The ergonomics of the Yani are wonderful.)
I knew about the old AKAI wind controllers (actually saw a sax player in Maynard Ferguson's orchestra do a really awesome solo on one at a concert in the 90s), but I didn't realize they made a new one. Thought Yamaha was the only game in town, now.
Steve B said 7:54PM on 10-13-2009
(Looks like my username got switched as a result of my having made comments on Engadget in the past. Didn't know the two sites were linked.)
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backpackingnerd said 12:31AM on 10-14-2009
Great post about music! Could we get one about photography?
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TentosToys said 12:15PM on 10-15-2009
Just curious - does anyone have experience with mastering tracks in their setup. I don't know where to start and am willing to get pointed in any direction - software (mac preferred obviously) or standalone hardware. Thanks in advance.
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