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Not getting an iPad? Don't forget the 'netbook option'

With all of the netbook hoopla, it's worth remembering that Apple really hasn't filled the need for a full-featured, really small laptop. With Steve Jobs saying that they simply can't build a cheap netbook without sacrificing quality, Mac lovers who still want one are left, quite literally, to their own devices.

myMacNetbook.com is here to help -- it has all of the latest news about getting OS X to run on a netbook in one place. It also has a valuable chart that shows you which netbooks work best with OS X, and links to the software that you will need to use in order to get a netbook up and running with our favorite operating system, and valuable, step-by-step directions for turning a netbook into your OS X dream machine.

The compatibility chart assumes that you want to install Snow Leopard, and shows you which features will and won't work on a particular piece of hardware. As of today, it looks like there are 10 different netbooks that are completely happy with an OS X install. I'll probably hold out for generation 2 of the iPad, even though I am very tempted to buy one now. On the other hand, getting something smaller than my MacBook Pro that does everything that I need it to do, and for a lower or similar cost, sounds pretty sweet too.

How many of you have already gone with an OS X netbook, or are planning to go that direction rather than getting the iPad?

[Thanks Ed!]


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JK

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned the other cheap alternative: used iBooks. I have both a netbook and an iBook G4 12.1". Guess which one gets used more? The iBook. It runs OS X 10.5 right out of the box, legally, no hacking involved. It feels about as fast compared to the netbook, and all the hardware is solid, reliable, and recognized by OS X.

You can get a used one for like $300 nowadays, or cheaper.

Sure, it weighs 5 (yes, FIVE) pounds, and is essentially no longer supported by Apple. But it has good battery life, a nice keyboard and a usable trackpad.

Plus it has a couple of nice extras: a FireWire port that supports "target mode" (very handy for techies), and it still runs a lot of older MacOS software without resorting to (the amazing but sometimes tricky) SheepShaver.

March 28 2010 at 8:01 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Yoshi1080

If you want a small notebook instead of an iPad, what's so wrong about a MBA? After all it's extremely lightweight, super-slim (around the size of a Joojoo) and more powerful than any netbook. I never understood the hype about netbooks and I totally agree with Steve Jobs on that matter.

March 26 2010 at 3:04 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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Rob

Wanna know why?

Because the MacBook Air BEGINS at $1500.

My Mini 10v (which does everything the MBA can) running the latest version of SL (10.6.2) cost me $290.

Do the math.

March 26 2010 at 3:39 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
tim

Rob, you must have the only Dell Mini 10v in history with a dual core processor, multitouch trackpad, and Nvidia graphics. Look after it!

March 29 2010 at 6:31 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
3gfisch

netbooks aren't better for anything ^^

March 26 2010 at 12:33 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
gg

I don't think any of you who are running OSX on a netbook are selling me on the idea very well. Nearly everyone says it's great (or ok) apart from xxxxx where xxxxx seems to be something rathe important!

And as someone already pointed out if all you are going to do is a little surfing/email/lightroom - why bother loading OSX on it in the first place. Why not just run windows 7?

March 26 2010 at 10:04 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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Rob

Since you're referring to something I wrote earlier I'll respond.

Why bother loading OS X in the first place? Because I like the Mac OS, that's why.

We're all here on Apple (not a Windows 7) blog last time I checked, right ;-)

I loaded it on my Dell Mini 10V because again, I like the Mac OS and prefer it to ANYTHING Microsoft has to offer.

I installed it on my Mini 10V because I have a MacBook at home and was in the market for a second laptop to use when my girlfriend was on our one & only computer in our apt. (our MacBook). And to have an ultra-portable little laptop when I wanted it. And I didn't want to have to spend over a grand to achieve this.

Total cost for my MacBook Mini 10v: $300, including the 2GB Ram upgrade.

Point me to where Apple is selling a $300 ultra-portable (2 lbs.!) with an actual keyboard running Snow Leopard and I'll gladly buy one.

Until then, I make my own. ;-)

March 26 2010 at 3:00 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
jtnave23

I've used my MSi Wind U100 everyday for the past 2 years and enjoy it. I know all the disadvantages of netbooks, but there are some advantages that people don't want to mention. I've used it as a movie player in the car for my 2 year old (non HD rips) and use it for work everyday. I'm an IT tech and have to use multiple OS's so I have OSX, XP, Win7, and Ubuntu on the Wind to troubleshoot and VPN into clients.

I'm interested in the iPad, but with the iPhone OS tied to it, I'm not able to do as much on the troubleshooting side as I need. I'm hoping that we'll see a full (or iPad) version of OSX on it sooner than later.

Oh, and the Wind works perfectly with OSX, using 10.6.2, as it's my main OS. It's a great tool to have instead of bringing the heavier MBP (my main computer) every place I go.

March 26 2010 at 10:01 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
tim

Personally, I don't know why you'd want to make your own OS X netbook - ok, the netbook itself is cheap, but once you factor in the cost of your time in hacking it in the first place and then maintaining it (fighting the inevitable battle with Apple over updates etc), and the fact that your OS X experience is actually quite horribly impaired by slow, unsuitable hardware etc, it actually seems quite a high cost for very little return.

Here's a crazy idea - if you absolutely have to have a netbook for those must-have-a-tiny-underpowered-laptop moments, why not just leave it running Windows 7 like it was designed for? No it's not a Mac, but here's the important point - it never will be.

March 26 2010 at 9:38 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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Rob



Why WOULDN'T you want to make your own Hackintosh netbook!??

Show me where Apple is selling a 2 lb. ultra-portable computer with a physical keyboard, LED backlit screen, running a real all grown up OS (SL, not the watered down iPad/iPhone OS) for $300 and I'll buy one.

Until then I chose to make my own. And I did. And it's pretty damn amazing.

Yes, it was cheap (in price). But the build quality of my Mini 10v is EXCELLENT. Clearly you've never held one.

There was no "cost of time" as you say to me in converting it. It took about 3 hours. Almost all of which I did other stuff while the installers did their thing. No loss to me whatsoever.

Cost of "maintaining" it!?? Again you're talking outta your tushy. It needs no maintenance. There is no "cost" in maintaining it, as you claim, apart from plugging it in the wall to charge it. lol


You wrote:
"(fighting the inevitable battle with Apple over updates etc)"

WHAT battle!?? What are you talking about??? Again you're talking from your derrière.

THERE SIMPLY IS NO "BATTLE" WHICH YOU SPEAK OF. I currently run the absolute latest version of Snow Leopard (10.6.2) on my Mini 10v. Didn't have to "battle" Cupertino for it at all - simply fired up Software Update. Couldn't have been easier. :-)


You claim:
"...and the fact that your OS X experience is actually quite horribly impaired by slow, unsuitable hardware etc,..."

It's quite clear now that you have never actually used a OS X NetBook, and are simply just making up claims.

My OS X experience is excellent on my Mini 10v. Not "horribly impaired" AT ALL. Who/where do you get erroneous info from? Since if you actually used one you would know that's not the case at all.


You said:
"it actually seems quite a high cost for very little return."

Really!?? I got a FULLY usable Snow Leopard mini laptop with an excellent LED backlit screen, 2 GB RAM, decent sized hard drive for $300.

Seems like precisely the OPPOSITE of your statement...no?


You said:
"why not just leave it running Windows 7 like it was designed for?"

Um, because I didn't want to. :-D


You say:
"No it's not a Mac, but here's the important point - it never will be."

Um, it's running Mac OS X Snow Leopard. So, actually, it is a Mac, thank you very much.

Tim, do me a favor and fill in the last part of this famous saying for me:

“If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, looks like a duck..."

Seems like you drank a whole quart of HatorAide vis a vis OS X Netbooks Tim.

Have a great day!

March 26 2010 at 3:33 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
tim

Rob, please don't take this the wrong way, but - LMAO! Talk about getting things out of proportion. You know what, if your Dell works for you, I'm really happy - it really is nothing to do with me either way - but I can't help wondering where all that thinly veiled rage is coming from.

You asked me why I wouldn't make my own Hackintosh netbook - well, my answer is that I don't want an underpowered, cheaply built computer that's running software in breach of Apple's EULA and enjoys no official support from the OS vendor. I have a 13" Macbook Pro that's eminently portable, beautifully designed and built, and has been tailor-made by Apple to run its software - the idea of swapping that for a Dell, even if it does save a few lbs, actually makes me slightly queasy. You, Rob, have every right to disagree, and every right to revel in the money and weight you've saved by choosing a Dell instead, but pardon me if I just keep on being happy with my Mac :)

March 29 2010 at 6:13 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
bob

I took the plunge and set up a dell mini 10v with snow leopard last fall. since my desktop is a sawtooth g4, I can't really complain about speed - in fact with 2gb of memory it works well. The real drawback- and it is a quality issue - is the track pad on the mini 10v. The end result - I wouldn't recommend it to anyone but a hobbyist.

Of course I still miss my 12" g4 powerbook.

March 26 2010 at 8:43 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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Rob

I agree. The trackpad on my Mini 10v takes some time getting used to. But I did get used to it and I must say I love my 2lb MacBook Mini! ^_^

March 26 2010 at 2:46 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Nick

This user is on topic. This post is about "if you're not getting an iPad, then what about this?", and someone talks about not wanting an iPad.

Just because someone's a Mac user doesn't make them fall over themselves for everything Apple releases.

March 26 2010 at 8:29 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
jake

I'm already running OSX on my trusty Eee PC 1000h and it's good enough for now. I don't mind that I may not be getting the full/real OSX experience, and I certainly don't think it's a better product than a Mac/iPad; the thing that does it for me is that it was a fun project, lots of tweaking and hours put into this.

I'd gladly get an iPad if I had the means, sadly these days my wallet is a bit compressed and there's little room for new shiny gadgetery.

March 26 2010 at 7:00 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Kelmon

"On the other hand, getting something smaller than my MacBook Pro that does everything that I need it to do, and for a lower or similar cost, sounds pretty sweet too."

...right up until the point that you discover that that the netbook's a cheap 'n' nasty laptop that runs your applications much slower than your MacBook Pro. I like "cheaper" as much as the next person but you have to appreciate that these devices are cheap for a reason and, as the old adage goes, "you get what you pay for". I certainly will buy an iPad (or similar concept) over a netbook simply because the software has been written for the hardware and I should expect to get great performance. Under no circumstances do I want to be looking at the spinning beachball of death any more than I do so today. In this respect I absolutely consider netbooks to be an evolutionary step backwards.

March 26 2010 at 4:06 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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