Updated iTunes for Windows includes Apple Software Update app

FWIW, Apple acknowledged my bug reports against iTunes 7.0.0.70 and QuickTime 7.1.3 with:

"After further investigation it has been determined that this is a known issue, which is currently being investigated by engineering."

Sonburn wrote:
"For PC users: Has anyone else noticed that if you remove the folders that iTunes creates in your Start Menu when installing (the iTunes, Quicktime, Apple Software Update folders), that when you fire up one of those applications it re-installs the folder in your start menu? Talk about an annoyance!"

Yes. And it also keeps putting back the desktop and Quick Launch bar shortcuts you've deleted. This is disgustingly user-hostile. If you are unhappy with this new behavior, I would highly recommend reporting it at http://bugreport.apple.com/ -- you will need to sign up for an Apple developer account, but this is free and doesn't take long (lame that Apple doesn't allow normal end-users to report bugs, though). Apple reportedly takes bug duplication into account when deciding what to fix, so please report it even though I have already done so.

No, sorry. Most of you guys are incorrect. Windows users will think of this as a "nag" much like we would if an MS program prompted us for an update. iTunes and Quicktime for PC are god awful (crash, lag, etc.). Neither of them are going to drive PC users to convert to Mac. These programs run better in OS X which is why most PC users opt to download and other types of software that will allow them to simply drag their MP3's to the iPod's hard drive.
The convenience of it all is debatable, but to PC users who are acquainted with and dedicated to a standard file folder navigation style, there is no debate.

Have installed the latest iTunes (with the new interface) but my iPod (30gb Black Video) is still saying its firware is 1.1 Shouldn't this have been updated or am I missing something obvious?
Thanks in advance

Now, Windows is more MacOSx Like...
xD

Apple's plans for world domination aside, I think many are reading too much into this. As a former Mac Genius, I see a pretty utilitarian purpose in this software update: a lot of Windows users never realized that there was ipod software that could be updated. At least on a Mac, if you ran your software updates, you would be automatically notified, but there was no automated process for Windows...now there is.

#13 try updating your quicktime if you haven't already.

Not sure if this matters to anyone else (other than myself), but this is the first time I could run install and run iTunes on x64-based Vista.

Actually, I have suspicions that Apple is using an internal version of the mythical "Yellow Box" for Cocoa development to create software for Macs & Windows almost painlessly. I think the iTunes 7 departure from Aqua might have something to do with that as well (a default color scheme that can be used for both Windows and OSX).

They're obviously using some kind of internal build tool and I wouldn't be surprised if it's a carry over from the NextStep days that's integrated into their version of XCode. iTunes is every bit a part of the success of iPods and I'm sure there's a lot of money invested there since Apple does these things with style.

So the transition begins.

*suspending reality*

Soon apple will release os x for the pc. Naturally, it will become a hit, perhaps bigger than windows. Gradually Apple will become more software oriented and soon Apple will be mac-rosoft. The ipod will transform to the zune. The mac hardware will go to dell. The world will plunge into the dark ages, with os x getting viruses and malware due to the flip.

Quietly, somewhere in a cardboard box, Bill Gates draws up a design for a new computer. Years later, Vista is released. It only runs on his new architecture. The legacy is reborn.

**restarting reality**

yeah..probably for boot camp, or iTV (for the 3 people that will actually buy it).