Rentzsch: iPhone vs. Treo + iPhone Bug

I had a Treo 300 series and now have a 600, but the apps I've installed on them can easily be replaced with internet access and Apple's own software.

People keep saying that Apple's success comes from tight control of the platform.

That's true for the iPod, but it's not true for OS X. Many people have loads of third-party applications installed on their Macs--and yet, the platform is successful.

Those apps aren't going to be on the iPhone, and that's a shame.

Apple's not opening it up to developers for a couple good reasons found here: http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/news/comments/apples-jobs-more-iphone-apps-coming-before-launch/9320

If you want installable apps, this is not the phone for you. Granted it might hurt a little at first, but Apple appears confident that they'll be able to offer most of what the general consumer will want. However, I do think they'll open up development eventually, it could take a few months or a few years, but it will happen. I think some are missing the big picture and that is what this means for future apple products. Imagine a tablet based, touch interface macbook that can make cell phone calls :)

But really folks, remember when the iPod came out? It wasn't long before big improvements were made in the apps, interface and general design. This product will develop the same way. I mean at this point it is just an iPod that runs a custom version of OS X and happens to be able to make phone calls and surf the net. It isn't meant to be the ultimate smart applicance, not yet anyway.

Without third party apps the iPhone is dead to me. I use a 700p, and the program I use more than anything is a third party app called 2Day. I have a pastor friend who has Bible software on his phone. Is apple going to release iBible? I think not. Third party apps are the difference between the iPhone being a sleak phone and it being a platform. Sleak phones come and go, platforms live for a long time. You might as well go buy a betamax.

>PS: what's with the partnering with Yahoo & Google ... and leaving .mac as the fifth wheel on the wagon again. They coudn't do a free push IMAP account with .mac ???

@icerabbit, think about it...
a) If you were a Windows users, would you really want your email branded ".Mac"?
b) Yahoo and Google likely ponied-up some bucks to "partner" with Apple
c) Apple could still (and possibly will) transfer .mac email to Yahoo to process, giving you push email in the process
d) Can you say ".iPhone"?

Third party development is a must.

Would you have coverflow, widgets/dashboard, itunes, ... without third parties paving the way first?

I want to be able to view & make small changes to received attachments, draw up drafts for different things I still use pen & paper for and then scan & email it. With iPhone / Apple Phone I could just droodle directly on screen and email away.

Apple really does not fill every need and if they want to appeal to a broader audience, especially a more business & corporate one (where the $$$ are to pay for many of these devices); then 3rd party apps, which they may not have even thought about nor would Apple ever invest in making them; will be developed and help sell more devices. Just make the developers have to adhere to certain requirements & testing.

PS: what's with the partnering with Yahoo & Google ... and leaving .mac as the fifth wheel on the wagon again. They coudn't do a free push IMAP account with .mac ???

Gotta have my password list app and pocket quicken on any pda. No third party apps will kill my dream of having the iPhone.

I'm desperately need this apps in my future iPhone: one similar to "splash-id" and another one to take drawing-notes ;-)

I think a lot of people (myself included) will get the phone for a phone, not a "smart phone."

Doesn't bother me, and it'll be more stable. Hope there won't be a "sad iPhone icon" that you see when the OS can't boot. Kernal crashes? Etc. Can't wait for these to hit the streets!