5 things you need to know about the iPhone 1.1.1 update

You can back up from 1.1.1....you are Wrong.....see instructions on nullriver web site

A few days ago, I bought an iPhone for my daughter in Chicago and one for myself so we could keep in touch. She tried to upgrade and now we can no longer talk. The iPhones are going back under the return policy. We'll get something else we can depend on.

Point #1 might not be so true anymore...
http://iphone.fiveforty.net/wiki/index.php/Downgrade_from_1.1.1_to_1.0.2

I think its funny how they now brought out the iTunes wifi store, now that they found a way to lock it up tight! Wonder if that was the plan all along...

Well, I don't have a reason to cry yet...I am unable for some reason to download new update it just times out??? What am I doing wrong?

Im optimistic we will get our third party apps back soon; as long as the nullsoft wizards keep working on the issue. As Steve said; "its a cat and mouse game" so just think of this situation as a temporary difficulty with a complicated puzzle. There are more than enough smart folks out there to figure out a solution.

You're kidding right?!

"It was only your phone on agreement of their terms and conditions"...

Are you crazy? It's my phone no matter what. It may only have a warranty for as long as I abide by their terms and conditions but ultimately I didn't sign a contract to be allowed to buy the hardware.

I didn't have to agree to an AT&T service contract at all. I walked into an AT&T store - told them I wanted an iPhone, gave them my credit card, signed the reciept and didn't sign or agree to anything else. I agreed to absolutely nothing in order to buy this phone.

Let's look at your statement another way... It's only your car as long as you agree to the terms and conditions of how to use the car. The problem is the terms and conditions state that you have to purchase gas and all services directly from the dealership. So, the car dealership finds out you're buying gas from another gas station. Do they have the right to kill your car with a "recall" for the PCM that they and only they can reprogram? I mean you broke the rules ... so technically its their car now according to your beliefs as above.

I personally would like to think that I own the phone and that if I choose to play with the "bits" then I don't have a warranty anymore ... but it is still MY PHONE. I don't know how they treat purchases over in the UK - but if I buy something here in the US - that piece of kit is mine for the keeping.

You left of sending mail crashes YouTube/Safari.

lol- this reminds me of Sony and their PSP- good homebrew comes out and Sony updates the firmware- save for Sony is concerned about revenue from games and apple is concerned about revenue from AT&T...

Apple made a very heavy decision when they picked an exclusive cellular partner- if they had released an unlocked iPhone they would not be having this PR battle- but perhaps their coffers may not have been as full from the AT&T revenue (or would the iPhone sales been much better?)

Steve Jobs, MacWorld, January 2007:
"iPhone runs OSX. Now, why would we want to run such a sophisticated operating system on a mobile device? Well, because it’s got everything we need. It’s got multi-tasking. It’s got the best networking. It already knows how to power manage. We’ve been doing this on mobile computers for years. It’s got awesome security. And the right apps. It’s got everything from Cocoa and the graphics and it’s got core animation built in and it’s got the audio and video that OSX is famous for. It’s got all the stuff we want. And it’s built right in to iPhone. And that has let us create desktop class applications and networking. Not the crippled stuff that you find on most phones. This is real, desktop-class applications."

So where's iChat? You called it a "Breakthrough Internet Communications Device", and it can't do always-on instant messaging, something that free phones do? Until then, I'm sticking with 1.0.2. Sorry I won't be able to buy your iTunes music on the go.