First signs of a schism in the iPhone dev community

Looks like the inebriated midget has managed to outdo even his own previous stellar efforts at misunderstanding and hyperbole. Just for fun, let's go through the points, one by one.

Ethical 3rd party developers - there are no such things, according to Apple, and (crucially) according to the position you've previously taken

AOL Time Warner - will not waste resources defending others' IP (shareholders would take dim view of such waste)

Intellectual Property - is not actually relevant, is not being stolen, and with all the talk on TUAW and other places don't you think (for one second, please?) that if Apple could demonstrate a breach of IP their lawyers would have acted already? Yeah?

The FBI - will simply not appreciate you wasting their time trying to describe an 'exploit' as a 'virus'. If you are EVER going to talk about anything security-related from now on, please PLEASE at least have some understanding of the difference

A virus - no, no it is not, and it doesn't "operate like one". If you actually knew what exploits, trojans, worms and viruses were, you wouldn't have made that rookie error

Erica Sadun - has absolutely nothing to worry about in terms of your legal paranoia, is widely appreciated for her efforts, and hasn't been slighted in the least by your bizarre and unsubstantiated slander

Slander - (example) falsely and publicly accusing someone of writing and distributing a computer virus, which is a crime

Some people cannot upgrade because of Erica - no, in the worst case scenario, they cannot upgrade because THEY added software which CLEARLY stated all the risks involved, including bricking, therefore taking the responsibility themselves

Everyone else should go to the FBI - I don't recommend that you do, they don't appreciate time-wasters reporting things that aren't true

Evil flourishes when good men stand idle - and idiots flourish when people don't point out how idiotic their idiocy is

As Placebo sung, obviously in reference to Drunk Dwarf, "Baby, did you forget, to take your meds?"

May I speak for the rest of us non-hacker types...

How about all of these nerds accept the phone for what it is: a great device with many useful features that will gradually become even better--not through the cat and mouse game that this hacking fiasco has become, but through continual software improvements that we can always rely on from Apple.

For goodness' sake, leave the phone alone, or buy a different device on an open platform! Not only have you polluted an otherwise useful blog, but you are delaying the updates by disrupting Apple's progress, I am sure of it. I am so very tired of reading about the latest "state of the Jailbreak" from Erica Sadun. For every aspiring rebel that champions the hacking cause (wannabe Apple programmers calling themselves a "dev" team--what a joke), the rest of us suffer as Apple works feverishly to close the latest loophole. That's so wasteful.

What killer apps can you not live without? If you want to play NES games that badly, get an emulator for your laptop. Better yet, get yourself an NES.

While the FBI is not going to come crashing through your door (and my friend, you deserve ridicule for such outrageous claims), leave well enough alone. I have yet to see a cool/useful app that you guys have released, let alone one that you could keep on your phone for more than two weeks.

Bottom line: you idiots do more harm than good in the name of progress. Stop ruining the party for the rest of us.

@goderf: do you EVEN READ the comments before posting?

apparently not. sheesh.

Is anyone else SICK AND TIRED OF HEARING ABOUT iPHONE HACKERS??????

Seriously, it seems like every other post lately has been about these hackers and the iPhone. Okay, we get it, they are still trying even after the latest update. Most people don't care, because most people are not hackers. An dmost people are not going to use the hacks they come up with. Including myself.

Can we get back to apple related news that people actually care about?

Thanks,

-goderf

There is always going to be troubles like this. I think that is is foolish for people with similar goals to squabble, but it might actually make the hacking better. They will be in sort of a competition which should make hacks faster and better.

"with the substantial population of never-hacked, never-unlocked phones that have also suffered iBrickage"

How do you arrive at this conclusion? Show us the data to support your conclusion. There are very few reports that iBricked happened to people who have not tampered with the iPhone.

I had written out specific replies but then I realize you can't reason with the haters and ppl who think hacking our own devices that we own is wrong.

I will say this. The requirement of hacking to get our devices to do what we want them to do IS WRONG, I will quote a friend of mine, when I told him about the 1.1.1 lockdown:

"That's why I don't own an iPhone. Having to hack a device that you own is like having to hotwire your car in order to drive it."

And don't tell me it's their intellectual property either. The iPhone is a tool, plain and simple, not a piece of art. I didn't buy it to marvel at what Apple did I bought it to USE it.

I'm getting pretty sick of TUAW. For these reasons.

1) Every day, it's the latest news on the "iPhone Jailbreak" developments
2) I do not care about this. I do not want to break my iPhone with complex updates that might ruin its functionality just so I can run unsupported "3rd party" apps of dubious value
3) If I don't care about the story, then I REALLY don't care about any in-fighting going on amongst those who are writing the hacks for all of this

BE GONE, PESTS. Hack your own damn phone if you want but quit besieging me with "news" about how that's going for you. Your phone broke?

NOT MY PROBLEM

@drunkdwarf
I just checked your recent posting activity and realized that you were being serious so um congratulations for posting a comment that was so out there that I mistook it for parody.
Good luck with your policing efforts. I'll bet the FBi loves you. I'll give you my unlocked T-Mobile iphone if you can prove that they're still accepting your calls this time next week.
WATCH OUT FOR THAT TIFF!

"It would not surprise me if someone involved in this split was working for apple trying to stir up some trouble..."

Yeah, thats the ticket. Its not just the hacker community having honest disagreements about a project's direction, its APPLE. Stirring up TROUBLE. Yeah, that must be it.