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Found Footage: Apple Store refuses service to iPhone sans AT&T contract


Reader Jake B. (who apparently has been covered on Fox News) had a broken iPhone, one without an active AT&T contract as it happens, and judging by Apple's one-year limited hardware warranty he figured he could just walk it into the store and get it fixed. Well, there, not so fast...

Even though the hardware warranty should apply, and regardless of whether the phone was ever registered with Apple (note that Apple's reg page says " Your warranty is the same whether or not you register"), none of that seemed to help; in the video above, at about the 5:55 mark, the hapless retail Apple employee tells Jake that "without an active AT&T contract, or an active phone, there's no way to tell that this [problem] wasn't caused by some sort of third-party software, or an unlock." Oops. The suggestion was that Jake call AppleCare and see if they could work out a warranty repair or get the phone registered.

Anyone else run into this kind of end-zone defense when trying to get an unactivated phone repaired at an Apple store?

Update: By and large, our commenters "see this guy with the video camera as insincere (at best)," and downright devious/dishonest at worst. Granting the point that someone who does actually hack or unlock their iPhone should have no realistic expectation of warranty service, I think the other issue here is whether the retail rep should be making that call for a phone that won't turn on. What if the iPhone was a gift, given more than 14 days after purchase, with no AT&T service on it yet -- shouldn't someone in that scenario be able to get warranty service on a DOA handset, without the presumption that the device has been modified? I don't deny that the Apple employee was in a tough spot -- maybe policy says you can't give out a loaner phone to someone with no AT&T service, or maybe this store has seen a flood of hacked phones. Without evidence of the phone being modified, however, I don't know that this was the correct response. On further review... comments note something I didn't hear correctly -- there was no SIM in the phone, despite Jake saying he had left the phone in the box. We call shenanigans.

Reader Jake B. (who apparently has been covered on Fox News) had a broken iPhone, one without an active AT&T contract as it happens,...
 

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John C. Randolph

If you can't afford to eat the cost of the phone, then you shouldn't break it. Duh.

I voided the warranty on dozens of Macs back when I was installing Monster Mac upgrades and internal hard disks, and I knew damned well that if I botched it, Apple wasn't going to give me a free replacement.

I have no problem with people taking a soldering iron or a sledgehammer to anything they own, but bitching about it when they fuck it up is just asinine.

-jcr

October 24 2007 at 3:09 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
clay Carson

I hate the way his pants make that swishing sound when he leaves. What a dweeb.

October 23 2007 at 3:35 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Mac Diva

I wish people would stop encouraging Jake Durgard to continue damaging his reputation. Apple and AT&T have not broken any laws. Nothing that was requested of him at the Apple store -- that he provide proof of registration and his name -- is questionable. Since the iPhone was incomplete without its SIM card that in itself was reason enough to deny service at the time. I am beginning to think that the publicity people generate by threatening to file or filing frivolous lawsuits on the Internet is resulting in a very unfortunate copycat syndrome.

October 23 2007 at 3:26 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Mac Diva

I watched the video a second time after Steve Y. said it was shot in the Pioneer Place Store in Portland. He is right! (BTW, Charlie, the thick guy behind the Genius bar, wears a kilt.)


I decided to comment again to say that AT&T coverage in the Pacific Northwest is pretty good. I've used it in Seattle, Portland and Vancouver with my iPhone. It is fine for voice. Data on Edge can be slow at times, but that is to be expected. Other times it is fairly fast. I watched the video above on my iPhone at YouTube using Edge without a hitch. AT&T coverage is no worse than other places based on travel and conversation. Probably better than some. So, I am doubtful about Jake's claim that he canceled his AT&T plan because of bad coverage where he lives.

October 23 2007 at 3:10 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
JSG

Wow... this is clear evidence of Apple violating the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act.

Good job, it's all on video!

BTW, if anyone wants to read about how Apple is breaking the law, check out http://www.phonenews.com/content/view/2386/9/

October 23 2007 at 3:08 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Mac Diva

I watched the video a second time after Steve Y. said it was shot in the Pioneer Place Store in Portland. He is right! (BTW, Charlie, the thick guy behind the Genius bar, wears a kilt.)


I decided to comment again to say that AT&T coverage in the Pacific Northwest is pretty good. I've used it in Seattle, Portland and Vancouver with my iPhone. It is fine for voice. Data on Edge can be slow at times, but that is to be expected. Other times it is fairly fast. I watched the video above on my iPhone at YouTube using Edge without a hitch. AT&T coverage is no worse than other places based on travel and conversation. Probably better than some. So, I am doubtful about Jake's claim that he canceled his AT&T plan because of bad coverage where he lives.

October 23 2007 at 3:03 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
FlimFlamMan

You call shenanigans, huh? Well after you were taken to task by the commentary. Grow the f___ up, please.

October 23 2007 at 1:31 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
faddah Steve Yuetsu Wolf

your update, as well as the article, as well as "jake's" video are all disingenuous at best (if you say he's been on fox news, why do you not put any link to that or put any reference as to whom this "jake" is? if he's so keen on having his video about apple employees just doing the job they are s'posed to, why won't he associated his real full name with it?).

you tellingly neglect (and so do many other commenters favoring this guy's actions) the one very telling moment in the whole video. toward the end, the apple employee pops open the SIM card slot, and finds, surprise, surprise — no SIM card whatsoever. *all* apple iPhones in the u.s. ship with a pre-installed at&t SIM card. to try and turn it on without one is foolhardy. yet "jake"-videoman just says he hasn't opened the box for a month, that's all, that's why it's not registered. where's the missing at&t SIM card then, jake? i think the apple store employee (that was the portland, oregon, pioneer place store, i recognized employees there, by the way, and they do a stellar job there, i can tell you, as an end user).

he got caught hacking, and you're trying to promote him as some sort of retail martyr. shame. for shame.

October 23 2007 at 12:21 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Steve

Clearly the guy was trying to take advantage of Apple:

1. He had a video camera with him.
2. The SIM card was out.

He bricked the phone and is ticked that Apple wouldn't take it back.

October 23 2007 at 12:00 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
digginestdogg

"hat if the iPhone was a gift, given more than 14 days after purchase, with no AT&T service on it yet"

Ahem. No. The tech popped out the SIM card--it was a non-ATT SIM card. So the phone, if a gift, was shipped with an ATT SIM card. So this guy was a dishonest poser. He deserved what he got.

October 23 2007 at 11:44 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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