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I think current iPhone users who upgrade to the next-gen 3G iPhone will probably be a bit disappointed at the minimal real world performance of 3G over EDGE. Its definitely not like moving from EDGE to WiFi.

For a similar comparison, check out the Smartphones Show 48 - the N95 8Gb / iPhone showdown :)

http://3lib.ukonline.co.uk/sshow/ss48.html

or

http://www.allaboutsymbian.com/downloads/smartphones-show/ss48.mp4

II'm not saying any other Phone does it, but this statement:

"And yes, desktop-class Mobile Safari means we can see the full internet"

Doesn't hold true for me. There should be an asterisk stating that java/flash is NOT supported.
Regardless of how you feel about flash or whether it's the devil or not, too many websites use it and it has crippled my "mobile full internet experience" since it's not being supported.

I'm not blaming the phone/Adobe/Apple.. I'm just saying..

no divx because it's proprietary
no wmv because it's proprietary
no theora because it's proprietary

apple use Mpeg4 because it's an industrial _consortium_ and apple is an important member of it. you hope they will shoot in their own foot ?

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iphone is a phone, with an ipod function and web.

it's in fact a PHONE+web+music. a phone, the ad tells always "it's also a PHONE" in the end, the last second you will remember.

it's a great phone but a simple one.

(I never used mms, I did not have on my old phone)

of course technological stuff is great, mms, vpn, video and so on, but mostly millions of people don't care about.

they care about the CORE function

as ipod were a "simple music box" , no radio (!), no xm satellite (!), no wma (!), no realtime equalisator and so on. but the best way to use the core functionnality.

you are right to want more technologies and uses, but I don't care about them.

Apple simply create a great device but simple, very simple, it is the first one. and with time, they will add SOME specific features, technicals one, more choices.

but never they will do the "device which made all", they let that to nokia or the japanese companies.

they are a market for Complex high-end do any thing tiny device

and it's not where apple want to go.

I think it's _good_ , it's _fine_ . else I will not have buy a mac (but will hack linux), not buy an ipod (but will hack a archos or n800 device)

in place, I just want the core stuff, in a the most pleasant way and _nothing ELSE_

and the great thing of our world is : YOU have choice and right to be VERY different of me.

it's just, I like the choice apple made. somedays not (apple tv? no !) , but here, yes.

iphone is a pleasant phone with my dream functionality : great html web !

People have always complained about Apple products from the dawn of time. Why is this? It's because Apple designs features that the MAJORITY of their users will use every day (or almost every day). Now, some people will have different requirements but they are in the general minority.

Why no MMS? My phone has MMS but I have never used it. The reason for this is that it is so goddamn expensive. If you can MMS a message for a small fortune or email a picture for free, which are you going to choose the MAJORITY of the time?

Remember that the iPod was created to fuel sales from their music store. Why would they support competitors' formats? Macs don't ship with DivX support; it's something that you have to download separately. I think Apple wants it to ship with as little third-party software as possible because they don't want to have to make excuses if the other party's software doesn't work as it should. They also could be waiting ages for the other company to issue a patch. Not a situation any company concerned about its reputation would like to be in. When the SDK comes out, I think this will no longer be a problem.

Off the top of my head, I can't think of any Apple products that have done something completely new. The technology has always been out there for several years beforehand, and many companies have tried their hand at it. But these companies are more concerned about incorporating Feature X and Feature Y into their device without much concern for HOW they are implemented. Consider Leopard vs Vista. When I am looking for something in Vista's Control Panel, it always takes me AGES. There are too many options. There are at least 30 icons on the main screen, and then you click one and it takes you to a menu with about 6 or 7 more (with a couple on the sidebar that I sometimes miss), then you click one of those and it takes you to a dialog box with 3 or 4 tabs. Whereas OS X's System Preferences dialog has 15-20 logical areas with a few tabs in each dialog. Does it offer as many options as Vista? No. Is it easier and less frustrating to use? Hell yes. Do the majority of Apple's users miss the missing features? The majority do not. This has always been Apple's philosophy from the start.

I can also confirm the same as the video:

I have the iPhone, and the Nokia E61. On average the iPhone is the same discernible speed as the E61, and at worst, a second or so slower. I also talked about this on my personal blog (among other iPhone topics)

http://rmtwrkr.wordpress.com/2007/11/27/the-tear-down-of-the-iphone-safari/

btw This is using the iPhone on the German T-Mob network.

I wish people would shut up about Xvid and DivX. If Apple supported Xvid, they would come under the scrutiny of the crazies running GPL. Even if Apple wanted to get in bed with Richard Stallman (ugggh, perish the thought!), the movie industry would just pull their content from iTunes. Apple barely has any support from the movie industry as it is.

And if Apple supported DivX, they would have to license their codec. Why would they do that, when they already have a perfectly good medium for supporting video? I hate to break to you Linux lovers, but it's not going to happen. Get over it already.

Alas, my money is still trying to burn its hole in my pocket. I grant that this puts paid to many of the N95 smugs, but for those of us trying to decide between a smartphone and waiting, this comparison doesn't change the fact that they're all dog-slow for web-browsing. Most "iCriticism" is non-comparative: the web is just too slow, regardless of who else does it slower. Hopefully the 3G iPhone will do it right...

Looks like its all CPU there seeing how both are using webkit to render the pages.

ok, icritique all you want. but in the end my friends r green with envy, and they all want one. and i LOVE watching widescreen movies on the plane, while the guy next to me trys NOT to look over.

iphone, ilove it.