John Nack updates Adobe 2O7.net controversy

It's not just Adobe using 2o7.net I just installed Little Snitch 2; and the first 2o7.net I came across was "aolwbtuaw.122.2o7.net" Hey TUAW whats up?

Here's some free information for you, adobe and others:
Go EFF yourself! (Electronic Frontier Foundation..and you thought I was being rude)

Seriously, I've let my numerous clients know what kind of company Adobe is (as if they didn't with the issues of Leopard and Photoshop CS3, the numerous annual upgrades to CS products and cost, the monopoly formed by taking in Macromedia and last competition, the bloatedware we've come to know as Illustrator, and the security holes in PDFs...). Oh and don't forget how Apple releases some amazingly fast hardware, and Adobe is 18months behind supporting (and hurting the Apple sales of hardware) with the excuse "Oh, we have billions of lines of code we have to re-write..and PC users to support..." HELLO? What platform got ADOBE created in the FIRST place?

You don't like this? Stick it to them where it hurts; their wallet. Not yours. Sell off your Adobe stock. Don't buy next versions. This is unacceptable.

For some reason, no one says "shame on Apple". Only Adobe. Blind fanboys grill another company for doing something exactly like Apple, yet...Apple goes blameless! ROFL

It's a shame. Shame on Adobe.

Web sites and programs use all sorts of addresses to phone home or report stats about a user's activity (I'm not saying I agree with the practice). Like many others here, I just block the addresses.

Was Adobe doing this as a favor to Omniture? Or was Adobe buying a service from Omniture? Because -- unless it really was a little joke left over from years gone by (and it wasn't) -- it's hard to imagine Omniture would provide bandwidth and services to Adobe and not bill Adobe. And once the accounts receivables department is involved, it's hard to imagine product managers not knowing this was there.

I think all these companies do this type of thing all the time its just that they think we aren't smart enough to figure this stuff out or don't have the tools to. Its like a cat & mouse game between the consumers and the companies. Thanks for taking the time to find these bad eggs and alert the rest of us.

"but what we're left with is the same explanation we had at the beginning ...the 2O7.net domain name was designed to fool users into thinking the app is accessing the local LAN when it phones home. "

Exactly. All this "gee, we don't know WHERE that came from" "That was a Macromedia thing" "Its been going on for years" stuff is irrelevant.

Its simple. Omniture is trying to hide the fact they were "phoning home", by obscuring their IP, similar to how spammers operate. Which sucks.

Adobe, by hiring Omniture, was either knowingly complicit in this deception, which would suck, or they were oblivious to what Omniture were doing to their flagship product, which would also suck.

I just don't buy Adobe's "gee, shucks, who knew" attitude towards this. This isn't some 2 person shareware company. Does anyone really believe NO ONE in their upper echelon knew about this issue before UneasySilence called them on it? I don't doubt John Nack's bewilderment at it, nor his mea culpa now, I'm sure he's sincere (although his first blog post about it was pretty snide, which didn't help things at all). But just because he was out of the loop, doesn't mean Adobe wasn't aware of it.

"but what we're left with is the same explanation we had at the beginning ...the 2O7.net domain name was designed to fool users into thinking the app is accessing the local LAN when it phones home. "

Exactly. All this "gee, we don't know WHERE that came from" "That was a Macromedia thing" "Its been going on for years" stuff is irrelevant.

Its simple. Omniture is trying to hide the fact they were "phoning home", by obscuring their IP, similar to how spammers operate. Which sucks.

Adobe, by hiring Omniture, was either knowingly complicit in this deception, which would suck, or they were oblivious to what Omniture were doing to their flagship product, which would also suck.

I just don't buy Adobe's "gee, shucks, who knew" attitude towards this. This isn't some 2 person shareware company. Does anyone really believe NO ONE in their upper echelon knew about this issue before UneasySilence called them on it? I don't doubt John Nack's bewilderment at it, nor his mea culpa now, I'm sure he's sincere (although his first blog post about it was pretty snide, which didn't help things at all). But just because he was out of the loop, doesn't mean Adobe wasn't aware of it.

Actually, "namtastic," you have it exactly wrong. Omniture is simply offering a product to companies. It's their corporate customers, such as Apple and Adobe, who are deceptive, by not informing end users of Omniture's involvement in their products.