Is Apple pushing Safari 3.1 on Windows users?

People need to learn the definition of update.

Not only is it to make corrections, but to add new information.

Safari is adding new information to further aid in the users protection and ease of browsing.

I'm a windows user, and always have been, so if I don't want apple software, simply don't download it. The option wouldn't be there if I didn't use apple software in the first place. I use iTunes, quicktime,...all of which is apple software, so it gives apple the right to ask if I want more of their product. It didn't download it without permission, so quit tha bitchin

I think Safari is actually a really good browser even better than firefox at times, and I wouldn't know it if it wasn't in my Apple updater, I am thankful for Apple to make such a great software on our hands, and may be I will find out why there is people out there who likes Mac and not Linux (My love story) or windows (I have it for work I am a developer), there is one thing I can't figure out with safari , How can I the developer add-ons for safari on windows, with firefox it is easy but with safari I just don't know, lastly Forgive my language I'm not a native speaker

I a late comeback to Mac. Windows for the past 15 years and know back to the real world all thanks to iPhone. I think the new safari software is great and might bring more people back to mac. (Apple IIc)

I think this was totally wrong on Apple's part.

Yes, things like Windows Update do install new software, but we have been trained for years that Windows Update is a vehicle for Microsoft to push what they think you need. And we are also trained to look at it carefully.

For years we have been trained that the Apple Updater just updates Quicktime and iTunes. Suddenly it is installing a new app?

AND this app is a browser? Myself, I am all about Firefox and I really don't take kindly to other browsers trying to take over the job.


In the bigger picture, I think Apple has become just as bad (in some ways worse) as Microsoft in morals and ethics. Most corporations act as though the operators have no ethics and at one time Apple seemed different. Now, if they still "think different" they are sure acting the same as all the other soulless corps out there.

Heck, even my iPhone was probably made by oppressed workers because I bought mine before that nasty story came out.

For those who have commented on windows bundling IE with windows. Its a required part of an operating system. How do you suggest you start browsing the internet or downloading stuff WITHOUT a internet browser ? lol

I don't think this is the most terrible thing, because I see it so much everywhere else, but it does piss me off. I think its good practice to have every optional extra to be ticked off to begin with. Its the same sort of thing when you sign up to something, and it gives tick boxes at the end which say "please tick this if you DO NOT want to get extra promotional shit shoveled into your inbox", its a dirty tactic.

I find it bad that with most pc users who arent too tech-savvy, you can check what applications they have running in the background, and you'll find stuff like ipodservice.exe and other apple stuff running in the background even if theyve barely touched itunes or other stuff. It shouldnt be there.

Apple is resorting to methods that MS hasn't used in 5 years or so.

1 - Anything new that MS offers are always listed as optional updates in Microsoft Update. This stuff is never selected by default to install with all the critical/important updates.

2 - Last I checked, Apple bundled Safari with the OS by default as well. In this internet age, an OS doesn't have a choice in bundling an OS since you can't get any at retail. It's a Chicken or the Egg thing. Windows has IE, Mac has Safari. No big deal.

If Apple has changed the mechanism so that Safari was listed but not selected by default, they wouldn't be getting this bad press everywhere. Let the user make their own choice, don't try to con them with rapid click-through.

Frankly I would be fine with iTunes and Quicktime selected since I use both and that Safari was listed but unchecked since I don't have it installed.

Another image for you guys,
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I hit quit, Firefox is for me :)

i hope they have listed this "apple can install softwares onto your computer" on the agreement.

ach whatever. I use firefox and it's very good, safari is not so good (compatibility and user friendliness wise) but it's not bad. IE is totally ridiculous. Firefox's data files are stored so nicely, they really helped me moving user prefs and other stuff.

I'd rather they had spent their time making iTunes not the most horrible application ever on Windows.

Seriously, the thing likes to crash, use all my CPU, only download 1/2 of my podcasts, etc. Man I wish I could use something else with my iPod Touch...