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Liveblog with the iPhone Dev Team: iPwnage

Yep, iPwnage was released today by the iPhone Dev Team, allowing the installation and loading of arbitrary firmware onto the iPhone and iPod touch. Great, but what does that buy you? Let's take a few minutes to chat with iPwnage developers Pytey, NerveGas and more to get a sense of the possibilities and promise of iPwnage.

If you'd like to replay the chat below, click the 'replay' button. Note that (ironically) the CoverItLive widget does not work on MobileSafari.



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Yep, iPwnage was released today by the iPhone Dev Team, allowing the installation and loading of arbitrary firmware onto the iPhone and...
 

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L

That cover it live widget works fine for me on mobilesafari.
Scroll the whole page with 1 finger or
Place 2 fingers on the widget and move both fingers at the same time to scroll the widget :-D
L

April 04 2008 at 9:16 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
badweasel

1. What happened to the multi-colored apple logo? I suspect they can't legally supply it - but I still want it. As petty as it sounds I really don't want the Pineapple or the steve toon on my phone. Is that what "Use Custom Pictures: option is about? Until there is a version that makes it easy to add my own custom pictures will that option allow me to use the original apple logo?

Wow I sound like a newbie. I know this is bigger than the icons. Certainly. But I'm hesitant because I don't fully understand how it works and how to put it back if I need to take my phone back to apple. (I have twice already.) In the past I just do a system restore and they're none the wiser about my apps.

2. It looks like you're supposed to do iPwner first, then use IPSW Builder to patch 1.1.4, then use iTunes to restore the phone with the patched 1.1.4? So iPwner preps the phone so it can accept the patched ipsw?

Anyone seen a video walkthrough/how to that ISN'T blurry (like the engadget one)?

April 04 2008 at 7:23 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
cycomachead

So this may be an obvious question:

Being that an ipsw is just a renamed zip file could I put any mobile OS in a zip file? Or use it to install another OS?

In other words: Can I / will I ever get android or windows mobile on the phone?

NOTE: I would never actually use WinMo (I have to use it right now :( ) but it'd be an interesting test to see some other stuff about the iphone / touch hardware.

April 03 2008 at 10:47 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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jtd

I don't see how Windows Mobile would ever be compatible from a hardware standpoint.

I don't doubt that someone could figure a way to get Android running on it though.

April 04 2008 at 6:47 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
jtd

I can't say I'm interested in running 2.0 until the June launch day, personally, but I AM interested in other possibilities. Can anyone speak to whether or not iPwnage will allow the loading of custom kernel modules? I know core was working on that for a while and ran into some apparently unbeatable roadblocks.

April 03 2008 at 9:03 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
billyjoeloubob

Erica,

Why did you pick an app to record a chat about iPhone that doesn't work on the iPhone? I can't scroll down!


April 03 2008 at 8:55 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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Kentor

you can scroll..... You can place two fingers on the screen and run them both down the screen. This works in a similar way on beejive.

Kentor

April 04 2008 at 7:16 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
chippydip

I have two iPhones (one earmarked for OS 2.0 as soon as apple decides I'm worthy of a dev certificate). I tried out the iPwner program on the dev phone earlier today and it worked great. That phone has no cell service, but its now a fully jailbroken 1.1.4 iPod Touch (essentially).

I then tried to iPwn my main iPhone (on a standard AT&T contract) and was able to get the software to upgrade just fine, but my AT&T service didn't come back once the process was finished. I finally ended up restoring back to the stock 1.1.4 ipsw on that phone because I need to be able to make calls with it.

I think that the problem was just that whatever iTunes usually does to reactivate a phone after an upgrade wasn't happening, so my cell service didn't get turned back on (presumably because the pwned ipsw is already activated when it installs). Has anyone else see this behavior and/or know how to "force" iTunes to reactivate a phone even if it thinks the phone is already active?

April 03 2008 at 4:39 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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Reverb

Chippydip

I had the same problem activating my AT&T service. This is what worked for me:

When you create the custom IPSW file with 1.1.4, check the extra boxes for "Enable Baseband update" as well as "Neuter Bootloader" and "Unlock Baseband". You can find the bootloader files from the link listed above. Update the phone with your new custom IPSW 1.1.4 file.

Once it's updated, restore with your custom IPSW 1.2 file. AT&T service should be back.

April 03 2008 at 8:42 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Alexis Susset

I did the pwnage today and it works great.

I just had a little issue with Syncing but after creating a new profile in itunes for my iPhone, it works perfect.

btw, running 2.0 on vodafone.de

April 03 2008 at 4:37 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Mathies

Find the Bootloaders here: A rapidshare link..

http://hackint0sh.org/forum/showthread.php?t=36485

April 03 2008 at 3:51 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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Russ

Thanks!

April 03 2008 at 9:09 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Dan

Im sorry but I have been looking all day and cant find the bootloader files, any help or a push in the right direction?

April 03 2008 at 3:37 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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Tony Hoyle

3.9 is inside the software bootloader downgrade kit (google it).
4.6 is around but I can't remember where I got it right now.

April 03 2008 at 3:52 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
macgeek

Damn why are you not posting my questions :)

Any plans to include dual boot between 114 and 2.0 fw ?

Nice work with pwnage anyway!

April 03 2008 at 3:24 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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