.Mac push e-mail coming to iPhone 2.0?
Sometimes, we at TUAW get awesome tips from our readers -- this is proof. A certain, unnamed individual sent us some pictures of the latest build of the iPhone firmware showing .Mac push e-mail. The picture shows the main Settings page with a new button: "Fetch new data." When you click the button, you are taken to a list of your mail accounts, where you can choose between either "fetch" or "push." According to Mr. Anonymous, while .Mac is offering push e-mail, you are currently not able to do contact or calendar syncing. You can see the iPhone screenshots in the gallery.
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Does anyone think Apple will open up the "run in background" functionality to third party apps, so other "push" sync clients can be developed?
Like say, SyncJe for iPhone, which already does this stuff?
So the cal/contacts sync so far is only with exchange? Is it available with any other services?
I think Apple would probably rather open up the framework for the push email to developers, so anyone (especially big corporations) could develop applications that would be inserted into the menu for email clients.
May 08 2008 at 4:07 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyWell, that's a start.
Usually, when renewal time comes around, I seriously consider whether I'm getting value for cost with .mac and it usually just barely makes it past my usual hack'n'slash approach to cutting household costs.
But I was just thinking the other day (as I renewed my .mac for another year) that if there was some serious iPhone / iPT support in .mac then I wouldn't waste time trying to justify it, I'd just renew.
And if Apple was looking for a way to sell me a copy of iWork as well, one way is to make it possible for me to view (maybe edit?) iWork documents on the iPod Touch via .mac
"Fetch New Data" is really not all that Apple-like. I don't necessarily doubt that the feature will be there but I would be surprised if they used that terminology for the masses. They would more likely soften it up a bit.
May 08 2008 at 8:59 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyCould you please check it Mail is still auto-loading images and thus giving all the spammers a heads up that i read their junk?
I seriously hope this is a configurable setting in iPhone 2.0.
Thanks!
The confusion here is a result of associating "push" with "email". They are not necessarily related.
May 08 2008 at 4:48 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyWhile I am finally excited to hear about this, I'm not patting Apple on the back. This feature should have been there from day one, matter of fact, El Stevo told us we would have it. The fact it took this long doesn't put much faith in the future of .Mac for me.
May 08 2008 at 2:27 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyUhm, Jobs said we'd have push Yahoo! email, which the iPhone does. Not sure where you got the idea he promised anything else.
May 08 2008 at 2:57 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyIf this works like Microsoft Up to Date then the following would occur. A new mail message arrives in .mac mail, then the .mac mail server (yes there is server support required for this) will send a SMS control message (control based text message which is free and just simply wakes up the phone) and the phone will initiate a sync. So in effect there is no constant open connection, just when it needs to grab mail.
May 08 2008 at 12:08 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI don't see how Gmail could push to a phone, on its own. The push has to come across the "last mile" by the carrier, who knows how to talk to the phone. Gmail doesn't know how to contact the phone to deliver mail to it, hence the phone PULLS from Gmail.
But any service is capable of pushing, as long as they have the cooperation of the carrier.
Actually, IMAP IDLE is independent of cell carriers or other transport mechanisms -- it's purely a capability of the IMAP server and client pair, and would work in a desktop client just as well as it would on an iPhone. Likewise, MS ActiveSync doesn't depend on carrier settings.
I'd be interested in more detail Michael. I don't know many details about the imap protocol, or ActiveSync. But what you describe makes it sound like a third party service can send(push) data to a handset without the handset requesting it. Without carrier approval that sounds sketchy. I'm sitting here on the Internet now and I don't think I can send anything to a random handset. Can I?
On the other hand, if the client is signaling to the server(as part of imap) that it's ready to receive something, that isn't a real push in my mind.
I'd really be interested in further clarification.
Really all the iPhone needs to support for .mac "push" to work is the Idle command. If they implement the IMAP Idle command into mobile mail then it "should" work with an IMAP service that supports it.
The IDLE feature allows IMAP e-mail users to see immediately any mailbox changes without having to undertake any action, which in essence means a constant connection to the IMAP server.
And therefore a constant drain on the battery...?
May 07 2008 at 11:39 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyYes. But that is why it is an option to fetch or push. Polling the server every 15 minutes is also a constant drain on the battery as is talking on the phone for hours on end...
You cant just not use features of a device because it drains the battery - what fun would that be?
So why is this menu item off the main settings and not under the mail section? Apple is all about the UI. Smells like a fake to me.
May 07 2008 at 11:19 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyIt's not a fake... and it is under the main settings for now.
Some of us were accepted into the program to test these things... so that's what we're doing and that's how we know. However, I do agree it might be better placed under Mail.
So far it seems to work pretty well. Gmail is fetch only as of now... .Mac and Exchange are push or fetch depending on preference and it works pretty well so far. I haven't noticed any negative impact to battery life.
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