TUAW Memewatch: iPhone developers irked over still-active NDA
On July 11, the iPhone SDK emerged from beta sparkling with dew. Trumpets sounded and a few frolicking nymphs danced in joy. The dawn shone bright, the sky offered the blue promise of a new day. And there in the meadow of newly released products stood a mass of grumpy developers shouting: "What about the *@!$%ing NDA?"
For the happy blue release fairy had granted the developers' wishes but had neglected one teeny tiny detail: the restrictive, regressive NDA still ruled over iPhone-land from its dark menacing tower in far-off Cupertino. The hard-working developers could not bring forth their coding jewels from the mines of iPhone Mordor. Instead, they labored under the cruel chains of confidential information and non-specific release clauses. Moreover, their inability to talk freely with one another about their challenges and successes hampered the advancement of the platform.
And then voices rose up: "We're mad as heck! And we're not going to take it any more!" And thus was born, Effing NDA.com. (Yes, that has been bowdlerized and the link is NSFW). Developers started tweeting their rage -- from the high hills of Oz to the depths of Silicon Valley.
And how does this little fairy tale end? We don't know for sure. It all rests in Apple's hands. Let's hope for a happy ending.
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On July 11, the iPhone SDK emerged from beta sparkling with dew. Trumpets sounded and a few frolicking nymphs danced in joy. The dawn...
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The NDA is still in effect because the Section 3.[REDACTED] part, aka the DoomHammer, goes into great detail about the level of suck going on with the agreement.
What is worse tho, is that app devs are getting their apps rated low9er) due to things they haven't implemented that would make their apps MUCH more attractive, but the NDA doesn't allow you to explain what the problem is to (ahem) "your" without running afould of it.
I think the iPhone SDK has become a trade secret, so EVERY SINGLE DEVELOPER MUST sign the NDA, since it is a trade secret....
July 24 2008 at 12:06 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyHey, Weblogs, Inc. It's time to Spawn "Iphone" into it's own blog...
Over...
I dont get it why doesnt someone just violate it anonymously or something
July 23 2008 at 7:56 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyWait wait wait. The NDA is still in effect? So you can't talk about programming techniques? You can't post sample code? No books? No forums? No discussions? No classes? No library projects?
They do want this to be successful, don't they?
In order:
Yep.
Nope.
Exactomundo.
Nada.
You got it.
Zilch.
Zero.
None so far.
I believe it already is -- Apps are in the store and selling. And iPhones are selling at twice the rate of the originals.
You filled out an NDA. ie. signed a legal binding contract. Its a pain. But that's life no?.
btw. I reiterate. Its a pain. But you did sign a legal doc.
And just because it's legal document makes everything else OK? The law is absolute? To the heck with morality and what is right and logical and sensible, you simply fall back on "it's legal" and shrug your shoulders? How lame.
"'Tis better to disobey a just law than to obey an unjust one." -- Thomas Jefferson
And just because it's legal document makes everything else OK? The law is absolute? To the heck with morality and what is right and logical and sensible, you simply fall back on "it's legal" and shrug your shoulders? How lame.
"'Tis better to disobey a just law than to obey an unjust one." -- Thomas Jefferson
You make an logical well-reasoned argument for terminating the NDA.
Oh wait, no you don't.
Man, I'm glad TUAW is reporting Twitter memes now. Especially ones used by 13 people.
July 23 2008 at 4:24 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyWell, this Twitter post to TUAW puts another $5 in Erica's pocket -- plus, as long as she's under NDA, her book on the SDK is going nowhere fast -- especially since her first book, "Taking your iPhone to the Maxx!!!!one!1!one!!" is probably not selling so well, now that 2.0 is public.
And, it's obvious that the massive royalties from "Eight Ways to Get the Most out of Your Zune" -- which I assume are: 1)Doorstop, 2)Paperweight, 3)Blunt Instrument, 4)Joke Doggie Poop, 5)Tattoo inspiration, 6)Construction material/landfill, 7)Fix a wobbly table, 8)Media Player..? (really?!?)
Keeping the non disclosure agreement intact allows apple to freely ignore adding apps to the store that challenge its future profitability or at&t's/other carriers. All the while since the developers have not been able to tell us they are working on the project, we're none the wiser. Big brother apple in action...sounds more like something the Big brother M would do though.
July 23 2008 at 4:23 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Replywhat does the NDA exactly say????
July 23 2008 at 4:18 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyCan't tell you, that is under NDA too.
July 23 2008 at 4:23 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyHot Apps on TUAW
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