Quark releases QuarkXPress 8

"Also, a new feature: A measurements palette. That's right, it's 2008, and they're adding a measurements palette. Also: east-Asian language support and hanging punctuation. Wow. Well done, Quark."

Measurements palette? New feature?

So that thing that was introduced in version 3 way back in 1990 has been a figment of my imagination for all these years?

Move along people, nothing to see here. Just the rantings of another ill-informed Adobe fanboi.

"if you don't you it - you are a TOOL."

Is that like the Zune tagline "You make it you?"
I too used Quark for a long time & switched to InDesign about 2 years ago. Will never go back. Quark sucked, always has, always will.

InDesign FTW
(for tool's work)

Funny to see all the doubters.
InDesign is fine - but slow and bloated.
Quark STILL does all a page layout app NEEDS to do - with NO BLOAT. and make flawless postscript files that are smaller and RIP faster than anything else - even apps made by the fathers of postscript. Quark is still FAR stronger of a tool - if you don't you it - you are a TOOL.

Hi, I'm from Italy.
I guess that my firm will never buy the new release of Xpress. We also have 7.x on some Macs but we only use the 6.1 version for most of the stuff and Indesign for more and more tasks.
I use 6.1 at home and it's almost perfect for my needs (CD booklets, flyers, books).
I don't care about flash (it's not needed for my sites) and I use Smultron for CSS and HTML, I personally would never use a WYSIWYG app for such purpose.

InDesign is great for creative work and I love the CS integration, but Quark has always been faster at tedious print-only work.

It'll always have fans, but Quark needs to realize XPress is a niche product now, regardless of what it was designed to be.

I won't ever understand the hate for the company, though. I admit I never dealt with customer support, but — well, if you don't want to get peed on, don't approach the guy peeing on everyone in public. Adobe hasn't always been great in that department, either.

It's a blog. Snark is mandatory. If you want snarkless news, try a newspaper.

How many times are they going to change their logo?

srsly....get a sense of humor. Shatner refers to himself as a "has-been" with a wink and a nod.

My shop finally switched to InDesign a little over a year ago. As much as I hate it, I hate Quark even more. They haven't had a decent release since 4.11.

Memo to Quark (and Adobe): Bloat does not make your app better.

Just as a bunch of indie developers are lining up to take on the bloated, nearly unusable mess that is Photoshop, so will they eventually turn on quark and InDesign. Very few of the new features they keep introducing are actually useful. I long for the day when these programs were simple, useful and responsive. I'd trade all the newfangled BS for just a snappier response and the ability to string together useful key commands.

The only thing Quark had going for it was a better toolbar. Adobe got better with CS3 and Quark got worse with 7.0, so it's a tie now. I'm just praying Adobe fixes some more of the UI stuff, as I am stuck with them. As for Quark, please just fade away...

I still use quark everyday. 4 was the best version. I just haven't had time to get into InDesign anytime I've done a job using it it has taken me soooo long that I give up and do the job in minutes in Quark.