2Chicks1Mac - Tip Applications: Hot? or Not?
Christina Warren. Erica Sadun. Two Women. Two Opinions. One love of all things Macintosh. This week, it's all about iPhone Tip Calculators. Are they a waste of Apple's time and resources, along with all those Sudoko games and Flashlights, or a clever and creative way for App developers to offer a useful product?
Tell us what you think... then read on for C vs. E in the tip-top battle royale.
| Totally Nuclear HOT! | |
|---|---|
| Tepid at best | |
| Not. Just...Not. | |
| Death to Tip Calcs! Long live Sudoku! |
Erica. Tip Calculators. Not everyone is quick on the mental math especially when we've been celebrating with friends. Why argue about check splits and tip percentages when there are handy tools around. It's not just about multiplying by 2 (or for the cheapskates, dividing by 2 and adding) -- a good tip calculator helps split the check while making sure the server gets their due.
And the tip calc win doesn't stop with the actual use. Sure there are tons of really ugly calculators out there but writing one is great experience. Simple apps help get your foot in the door, especially for first-time devs. Utilities allow programmers to learn about the AppStore submission process and get a handle on user reviews. The guy writing "Tip Me Over" today (yes, I made that name up) might be the author of the next Koi Pond, Tap Tap Revolution, or Trism.
The "too many tip apps" problem doesn't bother me. It's easy enough for poor programs to fall to the bottom of the AppStore search, fertilizing the ground for new growth. And should any tip calculator prove itself both novel and innovative (note how I'm not holding my breath), it can set itself apart in the top apps rating system.
So cheers for tip calculators. I'm voting "Hot".
Christina. I completely agree that writing a tip calculator is a great programming exercise, especially when you are just becoming acquainted with a language. I also agree that the calculators can be handy for some users, though I don't know how much more convenient they are than just multiplying the total by .15 or .20 in the regular calculator.
But I have to disagree with the notion that a good programming exercise, even if the underlying concept is useful for some users, is also a good enough to actually try to publish in the App Store. Look, for the first wave of iPhone applications, it was one thing. Even then, at least three tip calculators were available the first day. But it is September, let's move on to submitting something else as your "first" app.Not only is telling the difference between these basic applications difficult for the user, the over-saturation of these programs is a real negative for the App Store as a whole. It just builds-on the notion that the store is full of crap. And every tip calculator submitted just dilutes the value of the concept that much more. For every Koi Pond, there are several more "random number generators" and other applications taken straight out of a programming 101 book. I think programming these types of apps is great practice, and a great learning experience. But let's leave the actual submitted apps to something with more promise -- and without 100 other look-alikes.
I'm voting "Not."
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How does the iPhone application assess the quality of service you recieved? Surely that is a key factor in the size of tip required.
Obviously we have a very different tipping culture in the UK, but a tip should be an extra thank you for someone who deserves it - not the default. Employers, who expect their staff to be tipped and essentially reduce their staff's wages in line, should be shunned.
Generally I aim at 10-15% and round to the nearest whole paper note.
Pulling out a gadget or counting coins out is not cool.
I'm currently reading "Waiter Rant;" a bit tedious at times, but it really makes me cynical about waiters and the tricks they pull on you to bump up your bill to earn a larger tip. You might google for the blog of the same name by the same author.
The whole tipping business is outrageous - everyone wants a tip these days, even the coffee bar place where they put the obnoxious little tip cup in front of you while they do the extremely difficult and time consuming task of pouring you a cup of coffee.
I disagree with the comment earlier that no one is getting rich off tips. Granted, the waitress at Denny's isn't pulling in much, but the waiter at Lawry's in Beverly Hills can make a small mint on a Friday/Saturday night. I have friends who are bartenders, pulling $1 per drink poured/beer bottle opened at local night clubs. These guys easily make $500 or more on a Saturday night. I guess that's not going to make you rich, but not bad for a part time job one night per week.
I agree about figuring a tip. The math is so simple anyone who can't do it in their head most of the time should be ashamed of themselves; and using the calculator on the iPhone should be sufficient for the rest.
I've never understood the point of tip calculators. The iPhone already has a calculator. All you do is multiply the total by .15 to figure the tip. Am I missing something?
September 06 2008 at 10:37 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI thought this so-called feature was a bad dream last week. I WAS MISTAKEN!
September 06 2008 at 9:29 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI enjoy these posts, and I don't think it's right to ask for an "erica-free" feed, Come on guys, that's just cruel. Good job both Erica and Christina!
September 06 2008 at 7:06 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI'll just take a feed that is free of reference to chomping crap.
September 06 2008 at 7:38 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyIf you like calculating tips in your head; don't get an app.
No need to crap on people who find it handy.
Well, my first comment didn't make the cut, I guess. I find TUAW getting pretty light on content and the allusion to the 2 girls 1 cup nastiness is just another reason to avoid the site. Coprophagia is not funny, just ask Treat Williams.
September 06 2008 at 12:23 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyWhy on earth are you commenting when you don't think you should even be on the site?
September 07 2008 at 6:07 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyWell, I used to come here all the time, but the content is getting light. There's not as much interesting stuff. Now, as a reader of the site I felt that sharing the reasons that I was not stopping by as often might be helpful and I chose to do so in a sarcastic way. I was repulsed by the allusion to poop-eating and I said so.
September 07 2008 at 9:14 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI will agree overwhelmingly that the AppStore is chock full of crap. Dozens of tip applications, Soduku applications, Checklist applications, ToDo applications, Movie Theatre applications, Flashlight applications... Junk. I can appreciate the time and work that developers put into making these apps, and as a full time student I am grateful that many offer these applications for free. That being said, I thins that Apple should spend MORE time filtering the junk out of what is submitted to the store. If I were a brand new iPhone or iPod Touch owner with no idea of what is what, I would want to get into the AppStore and download quality applications. The rule of the game here should be quality not quantity. If I want a tip calculator I should be presented with one option, maybe two (free and paid). Now, I agree that competition begets innovation, but this bloated condition of the AppStore is starting to get ridiculous. Secondly, while Im perched on this here box, I want to add a simply complaint about the swich-a-roo that developers are trying to pull. If you release your app free, keep it free. If you release it at .99 keep it there. I have seen apps go from free to .99, to 1.99, then to 2.99, and then when their ratings start to tank due to aggravated reviewers, the price drops .99 cents. This is silly.
Whew. Done.
please take this comment constructively, this is a waste of a post with nothing of any significance to write about. something as mundane as tipping really doesn't need to be written about..
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