Podcaster app distributed via Ad Hoc after Apple rejection
There was a lot of debate last week when Apple rejected the Podcaster app for inclusion in the App Store, saying that it "duplicated iTunes functionality." Rather than taking a stand against programming iPhone apps until Apple's policies shift, like Exposure dev Fraser Spiers, Alex Sokirynsky decided to bypass Apple and distribute the app via Ad Hoc App Distribution.Many developers use Ad Hoc App Distribution to insure that beta testers and reviewers get copies of their software prior to the App Store release. A developer takes the Unique Device Identifier (UDID) from your iPhone, does a little magic, and then sends you two files -- one contains the app, while the other is a provision file. You drag the provision file to your iTunes Applications window, followed by the app file. A quick sync with your iPhone installs the app, and you're ready to go.
Alex has set up a website where you can sign up to get an Ad Hoc distribution of Podcaster. You'll need to "donate" $9.99 to Alex via PayPal to get the app. I think this is a great way for smaller developers to get their apps out there, particularly when Apple decides to shut 'em down -- although they are sharply limited in the number of licenses they can distribute this way, no more than 100 devices total are allowed.
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There was a lot of debate last week when Apple rejected the Podcaster app for inclusion in the App Store, saying that it "duplicated iTunes...
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By the way if you then jailbreak the iphone you can install an app named mobilecast that is free and does what podcaster does, and apple can't disable any of your apps. By the way who's phone is it, Apple's or mine?
@timeshifter
iTunes 8 changed the mechanism for how long to keep podcasts. You can now set rules for each podcast.
the fact it was rejected for simulating iTunes behavior is either a) totally wrong or b) the iTunes/iPod app on iPhone is due for an update soon with new functionality.
As someone who uses podcasts alot (and has a daily smartlist built for his morning commute), I definitely have wanted a way to update my podcasts on the device itself when I am away from my home computer. I can sync my contacts and calendar on my work pc, but it wont let me manage my music on it at all. So there is no way to update podcasts on the device when not at your main machine. this is awful for travelling salesmen like myself, or those who just want thier hourly news update updated before their commute home....
Id love to see this functionality built straight into the ipod app. "Check for new podcasts" button somehow, and I'd be fine with it only working over wifi. I want more granular control on how many podcasts get synced too, on a per podcast basis rather than a single number for ALL podcasts regardless of length or frequency...lots of tweaks needed for good podcast functionality really...
Yeah, some podcasts I listen to have a single one hour show per week, others have three three-hour shows per day. The current mechanism to keep a set number of podcasts for ALL podcasts is lame.
September 16 2008 at 2:28 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Reply"the fact it was rejected for simulating iTunes behavior is either a) totally wrong or b) the iTunes/iPod app on iPhone is due for an update soon with new functionality."
Except that if (b) is true, then that ipso facto makes (a) true as well.
You guys are missing the obvious...
One can have multiple AdHoc apps that they are distributing from their one account.
Making Podcaster101, Podcaster201, Podcaster301, etc. a possibility to get around the 100 limit.
The 100 limit was an arbitrary number set aside for testing before an App was destined for the AppStore. If you sign up as an Enterprise developer for $300, then you do not have that limitation.
~Tyson Edwards
I would like to see other application follow this approch such as NetShare!
September 16 2008 at 6:03 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Replythis application is incredibly useful, and is clearly a functionality that the phone lacks, so i don't see their logic in denying it. it's also pretty shortsighted to not allow such a productive application when there's such a a small percentage of actually-useful stuff in the app store so far.
September 15 2008 at 11:44 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Reply"For the Rest of Us"
I am a 100% supporter of his right to publish his application.
I'm generally an ardent supporter of Apple. HOWEVER, this is a very stupid and counterproductive Apple policy. It is totally unrealistic to expect anyone to invest the hours and creativity necessary to develop a great application with the threat that Apple can review the work, legally copy the concepts and then reject the application because they say it's in conflict with one of their current or upcoming applications.
Apple is a software company and while I agree that restricting the operating system to Apple hardware is legitimate, I DO NOT agree that Apple has any right to serve as a censor over applications that run in its hybrid (OSX & Hardware) environment on the iPhone or any other platform.
Independent third party applications are the fundamental reason for Apples success. Where would Apple be today without Thomas Knoll's development of Photoshop, or Pagemaker, Quark Express or Dan Bricklin's VisiCalc? Would Apple still be in business? I admire Steve Jobs and respect his willingness to be a prick to get what he wants. It's a risk to believe in your thinking enough to do what it takes to get your way. On the other hand, Apple, Woz and Steve Jobs are all about building a better mouse trap. OSX is UNIX, the Apple I was built to run an operating system developed by WOZ to improve RPM. Apple's tag line "for the rest of us" is based on Apple's GUI accessibility. Where did the GUI concept come from? Not Apple, it came from work done by XEROX PARC.
I'm not criticizing Apple, Woz or Steve. Understanding the implications of what you experience, learn and see is the basis for any successful endeavor. It's brilliant to apply that thinking to re-invention or understanding how to improve the status quo. Apple is successful because they were willing to wipe the slate clean and find a better way. The iPhone is a revolutionary product and perfect example of what can happen, not by invention but by imagination. We had all the pieces, a computer, a phone, the touch screen but Apple had the brilliance and the balls to imagine a better way "for the rest of us."
The problem here is it's not possible to be a hippie and Attila the Hun at the same time. Using iTunes as the only distribution point for iPhone applications is an expression of total self interest. The concept is, while your in the store you'll spend a buck on something else (I buy most of my online music from Amazon, no DRM.) Using iTunes as a gatekeeper to stop any dilution of Appleâs self interest is an intellectual and commercial crime.
Apple should consider that "For the Rest of Us" is dependent on the belief, innovation and investment of independent developers.
James Rosenthal
Or he modifies a line or two of code, changes the name and has 100 more apps to release
September 15 2008 at 10:12 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI really don't believe Apple's excuse for not allowing this app in the store, but I do think I know why they denied it. The problem isn't with streaming, it's with the fact that Podcaster allows you to download podcasts to your device. That means that music could be disguised as podcasts and distributed freely. I think that's a bag Apple doesn't want to open up.
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