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TUAW Review: Podcaster
You've heard about the controversy surrounding Podcaster -- it's the iPhone app that was turned down by Apple for "duplicating the functionality of iTunes." The developer, Alex Sokirynsky, is now distributing his native podcast stream receiver app via ad hoc distribution. The iPhone development world & the Mac blogosphere (not to mention the mainstream press) is still loudly debating Apple's decision, but not much is being said about the application itself. Alex was kind enough to provide a review copy of Podcaster to TUAW, so we gave the app a workout. Read on for our review of this controversial and useful application.
The ad hoc distribution of Podcaster weighs in at 724 KB in a downloadable zip file that expands to a 1.9 MB application file and 16 KB mobile provisioning file. To install the application, the mobile provisioning file is dragged to the iTunes Applications page, followed by the application file. One quick sync and the app is installed on your iPhone.
Once Podcaster is happily residing on your iPhone, it's time to add podcast URLs to the application. To do this, one tap on the traditional iPhone "+" (add) button brings up a search and import page. To search for a podcast, just enter the name in the search field, and if Podcaster finds the correct listing, you simply tap on its name to import the feed. There are also buttons at the bottom of the search and import page to show you listings of Featured, New, Top Rated, or Popular podcasts from Podcaster.fm.
When you've have established the feeds for your favorite podcasts, they appear on the My Podcasts screen with an icon and the date of the most recent podcast episode. A tap on the podcast entry displays a list of all of the episodes in the feed file. To stream a podcast episode to your iPhone, simply tap on it, then tap the play button to listen. Podcaster does a remarkably good job of streaming podcasts over an EDGE connection, which is great if you have a first-generation iPhone or (like the author of this post) have really crappy 3G service. WiFi connectivity works as well, of course.
If you'd like to download a podcast for future playback, there's a small download icon in the lower right corner of the screen that you can tap. While the podcast is being downloaded, a small floppy disk icon -- a blast from the past -- shows up next to the podcast speaker icon. You can tap on it to see the progress of your download. Where does that downloaded podcast end up? Not in the iPod application, but in Podcaster in a listing under Downloads. To play the saved podcast on your next flight to Australia, just tap on the entry for the podcast on the Downloads page, and a player appears. Once you've listened to the podcast, tap the trash can icon to delete it.
The user interface is functional, although a bit unimaginative. Since this is an application you're supposed to listen to rather than look at, that's not a deal-killer for me.
Your alternatives to Podcaster? Well, you can always sync podcast episodes to your iPhone from iTunes. Hmm ... gotta have a computer to do that. A reader suggested using NetNewsWire for iPhone (click opens App Store), but that means that you need to go to the NewsGator Online site and add the feeds. I couldn't get it to work, but then again, I didn't try that hard.
Is Podcaster worth the US$9.99 donation that Alex is asking for? It depends. If you want the ability to be able to subscribe and listen to podcasts from anywhere with an EDGE, 3G, or WiFi connection without jailbreaking your phone, then this may be the app for you. However, Alex notes that 1) Ad Hoc distributions are only good for one year, and 2) Apple has remote app "kill switch" capabilities, so they could choose to be nasty and remove Podcaster from your iPhone.
Frankly, I can't see why Apple nixed Podcaster from being in the App Store, unless there are some native podcast tools in the works for a future release. Even then, there are many other applications that duplicate the capability of iPhone apps -- think of the calculator applications that compete with Apple's built-in calculator app as an example -- although it's been pointed out that Podcaster cuts a lot closer to the core functionality of the iPhone than a calculator does. Meanwhile, it seems that the controversy over this application hasn't hurt the donation-based distribution: over 1300 copies of Podcaster are already in the wild, stretching the Ad Hoc distribution system way beyond its original boundaries.
To take a look at the user interface of Podcaster, check out the gallery.
Gallery: Podcaster


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Reader Comments (Page 1 of 2)
jonathan cosgrove said 11:14PM on 9-17-2008
is it true that this prgram has a 20mb limit for podcast downloads?
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tk said 12:11AM on 9-18-2008
I don't know why it is so hard for people to figure out. APPLE IS GOING TO MAKE THE STOCK IPHONE/Native Itunes app (on the phone) WORK LIKE PODCASTER DOES IN THE NEAR FUTURE. THIS IS WHY THEY REJECTED THE podcaster app.
JKT said 5:01AM on 9-18-2008
1. You don't know that for sure. Many have been saying "any day now from Apple" about cut & paste, but it's nowhere to be found either.
2. Define "near future". What about those who have a use for direct podcast downloading now?
Josh said 6:29PM on 9-18-2008
If they rejected it because "APPLE IS GOING TO MAKE THE STOCK IPHONE/Native Itunes app (on the phone) WORK LIKE PODCASTER DOES IN THE NEAR FUTURE" that doesn't make their actions any less offensive. If anything, it's worse. And because Apple's in control of the App Store, it's anti-competitive.
What if Apple controlled software distribution for the Mac back in 1984, and rejected Photoshop because it competed with MacPaint?
Steven Sande said 11:24PM on 9-17-2008
To the commenter who thought that there was a 20MB download limit for podcasts: Nope. Take a look at the fifth picture in the gallery, which shows Podcaster in the middle of a 36+ MB download. I'm not sure what the limit is...but it will sure be fun to find out!
TUAW Steve
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Aaron Zollo said 11:29PM on 9-17-2008
Great to see this app get so much press. I did a review myself just because this guy should have been allowed to sell his app in the app store. As much as I love Apple, this sort of thing is really unfortunate.
http://zollotech.com/content/iphone-ipod-touch-podcaster-app-reviewed
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Joshua Rodriguez said 12:13AM on 9-18-2008
It's really difficult to imagine why Apple killed this app, but there is a way of downloading podcasts directly to the iPhone/iPod Touch which I'm surprised nobody has mentioned yet. All you have to do is download the mp3 file. I use it all the time to listen to my podcasts. Of course, you have to go to the site directly or to an aggregator, and you can't keep the file-- though I've downloaded a podcast and turned off the WiFi and was still able to listen to it.
Anyways, it would still be nice to have an organized app for it, but I'm fine with just downloading the mp3 from the site.
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reallycrazyguy said 12:22AM on 9-18-2008
I wouldn't say the application is controversial, as there isn't anything particularly special and/or novel in the application itself. The only controversy is with Apple's rejection of the application from the App Store (and their rationale for rejecting it). The controvery is with Apple, not PodCaster
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Chris said 12:41AM on 9-18-2008
I wonder if the "duplicating iTunes" thing is about the player part. If Podcaster simply helped you download or stream podcasts through EDGE, 3G, or WiFi, but played them through the iPod software, I wonder if it still would have been nixed.
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Libb said 1:32PM on 9-18-2008
That would be great - if it were possible. As all iPhone SDK developers will tell you, SDK-based apps have zero access to anything related to the user's media in the iPod/MobileMusicPlayer library. Why is beyond me, I'm guessing Apple's afraid people will make DRM-strippers or music-sharing apps, but it means that it's impossible for an app to add a podcast directly to the iPod's listing of podcasts.
Which is why I jailbroke my iPod Touch and am happily using apps like scrobbled that Apple has decided are not fit for public consumption - I'm an intelligent enough user to know what is and what isn't right for my device, I don't need a babysitter deciding it for me.
Caravan said 1:46AM on 9-18-2008
How about using Simplify Media to link to your desktop which you set to update hourly via iTunes (or, if you set SM to track a fold, any podcatcher could update it)? Seems pretty easy to me; I did it this afternoon at lunch.
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Josh said 6:46PM on 9-18-2008
If the obvious reason for the rejection is "that it would likely be a bandwidth hog on the network" then why didn't Apple make this VERY CLEAR to the developer? Instead, they said it "duplicates the functionality of iTunes."
Why would they lie? Their explanation sounds worse. I don't think there's much to read into here, they rejected it for the reason they said they rejected it.
Kento Ito said 2:51AM on 9-18-2008
There could be one reason why Apple's logical explanation can be justified....
There is another iPhone update comming out, one of the new feature includes podcast section in the iTunes Wi-Fi Music Store, where users can wirelessly subscribe to the podcast.....
The reason I know: I have a friend who works at Apple in California, and he showed me the iPhone running unreleased iPhone firmware 2.2, and one of the feature is the wi-fi music store having podcast section (which by the way, is audio only podcast, no video)
I know I shouldn't be telling you this, but I just had to finally break it out to you, that there is a podcast subscription feature coming out on iPhone 2.2 update.
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fishbert said 4:20AM on 9-18-2008
The obvious reason for Apple to nix the Podcaster app (and why they haven't said this from the beginning, and why I haven't heard anyone else point this out, I don't know), is that it would likely be a bandwidth hog on the network.
I suspect the app would've gone through if it limited itself to wi-fi connections only (like Apple's own iTunes store does).
Meatleg said 6:35AM on 9-18-2008
I have connected to the app store while outside my home, on the train, with wi-fi turned off. do you mean downloading is restricted to when you have wi-fi access? i havent tried to download on 3G cause i just figured that it was an all around bad idea.....
dukrous said 10:16AM on 9-18-2008
You can't connect to the iTunes Store while on cell data...you need a wifi connection for that.
However, read the Apple SDK Agreement point 3.3.3...this is enabling a distribution method that is not in the iTunes Store (by using RSS instead of Store API calls). Better question is how some of those comic readers are getting around this same bulletpoint?
Josh said 6:47PM on 9-18-2008
If the obvious reason for the rejection is "that it would likely be a bandwidth hog on the network" then why didn't Apple make this VERY CLEAR to the developer who worked hard t create it? Instead, they said it "duplicates the functionality of iTunes."
Why would they lie? Their explanation sounds worse. I don't think there's much to read into here, they rejected it for the reason they said they rejected it.
cdamian said 3:05AM on 9-18-2008
I don't think Apple's problem is with the Podcaster application, but with the podcaster.fm podcast directory. This does indeed duplicate the iTunes music store functionality and takes away traffic from the store.
I also wouldn't keep my hopes up for a similar application from Apple. It took them until iTunes 8 to have useful settings for different podcasts. And music only podcasts still can't be treated as normal songs.
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Victor Agreda Jr said 8:08AM on 9-18-2008
I think that's the most reasonable explanation: it takes traffic away from the store. Even the mini-shop on the iPhone/touch IS the iTunes store, so anything that removes a user from iTunes probably won't fly with Apple.
Kleinias said 3:20AM on 9-18-2008
Does anyone know if (using this app) you can listen to a podcast in the background while doing other things like websurfing or reading your email?
I suspect the answer is in the negative, but I'm curious enough to want to have a more definitive answer.
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