Date/time bugs throughout the years for Apple
As 30GB Zune owners deal with the sudden bricking of their systems after midnight this morning, hopefully they can take comfort in the fact they are not alone in this. Throughout the years, Apple products had their share of time & date problems.In February 2000, Newton owners began reporting that they were having issues with the Newton being rather confused about what century it was in. Some users discovered that when they entered two-digit numbers as part of birthdays and other common abbreviated dates, things got wonky. For example, if I entered my birth date as 2-28-80 on the Newton, it interpreted the number as being February 28, 2080 rather than 1980. Entries of full dates in the 1900s were also affected. Other users stated that when they tried finding 20th century dates in the Find applet of the Newton, the system actually performed the search using 21st-century dates.
Fixes included resetting the system clock back to 1999 to enter those dates before resetting it again back to 2000 and applying software patches. Sadly, it's a bug that HAL-9000 forgot to mention. Apple even reported back in 1998 that the Newton was Y2K-compliant. Of course, this won't even begin to cover the problems that Newton owners still using the product will have in 2010. If you see our own Newton-sporting Steve Sande at Macworld, be sure to tease him about it.
A Tiger bug discovered in 2005 revealed that Safari's RSS reader would list some items as being an hour ahead of when they were actually posted -- news from the future is not catastrophic, but certainly could be confusing.
Our research this morning hasn't turned up any date-related iPod or iPhone hiccups, but if you know of any examples please let us know in the comments. As for the Zune bricks, there's been no word yet from Microsoft regarding the failures, but Engadget's readers have already come up with a number of theories including blaming it on Steve Jobs, the year 2008 being one-second longer, and other conspiracy theories that are sure to come throughout the day.
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Actually yes! All of the photos I took on December 28, 29, 30 and 31 were mistakenly labeled as December 28-31, 2009 by the iPhone. I found this out when I imported them into iPhoto and found them in the wrong order!
January 03 2009 at 8:47 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyMy iMac (20" LCD) loses time whenever it falls asleep, almost like the clock runs backwards. What's worse, is that even though it's checked in the prefs, it doesn't automatically re-sync with the 'Net time server unless I open prefs, uncheck and re-check it. Been through OS upgrades and all, and it still does it. Started doing it when I got it back from the Apple Store after the 2nd defective logic board.
January 01 2009 at 11:01 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyIs it worth it to mention the Boot Camp 8 hour bug when switching back to OSX?
December 31 2008 at 5:30 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Replyan ipod touch won't connect to youtube if the date and/or time are incorrect, but its just a matter of making sure the time on your computer is correct when it syncs
December 31 2008 at 5:16 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyDon't forget that Apple just "forgot" about New Zealand changing daylight saving start/end dates in 2007. It was the same year, I believe, that the US changed, so it's not like it wasn't at the front of their minds!
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?ForumId=47&TopicId=16224
I remember having problems when I first got my 2G iPod nano. Formatting it with HFS, whilst in a country that did dates in the dd/mm/yy format (ie everywhere minus USA) would make the iTunes sync fail. The fix was to change your mac's location to USA, or format as FAT on windows.
December 31 2008 at 2:57 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI wouldn't expect it's a leap-second issue, as the zune wouldn't know about it.
More likely is the fact that this is the first leap year zune will have encountered.
Some pics I imported from my iPhone that were shot on 12/31/2007 came into iPhoto marked as 12/31/2008. Don't know if it was a problem with the phone (my suspicion) or iPhoto. Hey, I should shoot some today and see what happens!
December 31 2008 at 1:11 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI had the same problem when importing photos from iPhone to iPhoto /this/ year. Photos were shot on 12/31/08 but metadata showed 12/31/09 -- 2 different iPhones. Long live leap year.
January 02 2009 at 12:32 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI desperately wish people would get a handle on the term "bricked". Anything that is likely to become functional again, like the Zune, is not bricked. Bricked means that the device is no longer ever going to function, as in, it is now only useful as a brick.
There are multiple definitions of "bricked" in this sense. Here's one from the urban dictionary:
"Bricked refers to ANY hardware that is unable to start up due to bad software; Usually because of a bad software flash, a modification done improperly, loss of necessary files, being overheated from overclocking or overuse if the item is a lemon, a short-ciruiting, or a trojan that deletes necessary files for a few exaples. "
So, 30GB Zune's are "unable to start due to bad software" = bricked. Also, as of yet there's no fix. They're unable to start. They're dead. IF/WHEN Microsoft comes up with a fix, then maybe they can be un-bricked. Until then they're just paperweights.
if I had to make a wild guess, I'd say that there's a line of code that performs some calculation on the day of the year, with a check to make sure that value isn't over 365. Since today is day 366 of the year, that caused it to choke.
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