Flash coming to the iPhone after all?

I'll be the first to support Flash Player on iPhone, AS LONG as Adobe can make it run efficiently. Introducing efficient Flash will allow the most useable, desktop like web experience for iPhone browsing. I agree that the Mac version of Flash Player is a pig. I'm anticipating Adobe fix he bad rap and improve performance on Mac as well as iPhone since much of the underlying framework must be shared. It performs so much better on Windows even though Windows OS performance falls short of OS X.

Too bad for the Macromedia days of Flash are well behind us. I had far more faith in the transparency, performance and usability of Flash before juggernaut Adobe took over Macromedia.

I might be wrong, but has Adobe added any real innovation to Flash?

Wow! If they could only make Flash run fairly on Mac OS X... It just doesn't run, keeps freezing Safari app and sometimes even the whole system!

My G4 Mac mini's fan almost makes it fly every time tune to a Flash site.

iPhone??! You're kidding, right?

Flash is great and all variations of it.

When flash is 508 compliant it might be worth the time. Shitty workarounds which are rarely implemented do not make it so.

There are several flash only websites I like to visit but are only accessible from my Mac and not from my iPhone 3G. I hope Adobe working alongside with Apple can finally provide iPhone customers with the option to install a Flash plug-in for Safari so it can finally compete with other smartphones that already support Flash Player Lite.

I need flash to check a few websites that decided html wasn't cutting it (Bestbuy's weekly ad for example).

Would love to have the "option" @ least to view these sites.. You can't claim "the whole internet in your pocket", if it really isn't there, REGARDLESS if this is a standard or not.. Most customers won't understand that, just that they know they can't get to a certain site..


Get it done..

I love the Flash-bashing. I am a Flash/Flex developer. While in many cases the is a lot of overblown, processor-intensive, video-heavy Flash content out there, there is a lot more to the platform.

I create a lot of simple applications in flash and Flex, and simple word games. I have invested a lot of time and work learning Actionscript, and can use it to quickly make applications that access databases and web services. I can create something and deploy is the same day, to whoever I like.

It is extremely problematic to now have to learn objective C and a new environment to deploy even the simplest apps. Plus, my only path to deployment is to put something on the app store, so I cannot easily create for internal users or just my friends.

In keeping with "the whole web" Apple show allow this. However, I think they should also allow disabling/enabling it on a site-by-site basis. I don't need to download huge Flash ads over 3G. But if a site offers me useful content only in SWF, I want it, and as a developer I need it.

Remember when MIDI sounds and animated gifs were 'integral' to the the web experience?

When Adobe wanted PDFs embedded in every web page because fonts wouldn't render right?

Just about the time Adobe "gets Flash right" they'll discard it. Just like SVG.

But that won't be for awhile, because Flash runs like dogcrap on PPC processors... and what is the iPhone built on? ARM.

Oh, and even Microsoft has to go thru the AppStore. E tu, Seadragon?

Implementing flash is a horrible idea.
My favorite feature of the iPhone is no flash.
Developers need to be encouraged to create open and accessible websites-- not to force users to use proprietary plugins. While the fact that flash sucks and pegs the cpu are problems, for me those issues take a back seat to the philosophy of an open web free of proprietary technologies.

I can see Flash on iPhone working well. I tried out Flash on Windows Mobile 6.1.4 (in the emulator) and went to youtube and it worked okay. There were moments of laginess, but I think some of it can be attributed to me running it in the Windows Mobile emulator instead of on the physical device.

Apple will likely end up BUYING Adobe...which Microsoft clearly foresees and moving to a cloud computing model with ancillary services and memberships adding value. That would impact Microsoft tremendously (does anyone take Silverlight seriously?)...