Cydia Store now open for jailbreak app sales

YOU CAN FORWARD MESSAGES ON A JAILBROKEN PHONE IT IS WONDERFUL YOU
CAN ALSO TXT PICTURES WITHOUT HAVING TO GO THRU EMAIL IT IS . TO THE
DUDE WITH THE TUDEGREAT WHEN I PURCHASEDE MY PHONE IT WAS ALREADY
JAILBROKEN SO DUDE DOES THAT MAKE ME A LIAR AND A CHEAT I DIDNT SIGN
ANY TERMS OR CONTRACT BUT I LOOK AT IT THIS WAY IF I PAY MY MONEY FOR
IT ITS MINE BY UR REASONIN IF YOU BUY A WHITE CAR YOUR A LIAR AND
THIEF IF YOU EVER PAAINT IT OR CHANGE ATHING. DUDE GROW UP IF U DONT
LIKE IT THEN STAY OFF OUR POSTS U MADE UR STUPID COMMENT NO SHUT UP.
CAUSE I GUARENTEE U U ARE NOT A PERFECT AS U POSE. SO I GUESS UR A
POSER.......................

DRAKUL

I sell iPhones and the EULA is probably nearly unenforceable (at least in Canada). Firstly, only a reference to the EULA is on the back of the box, so you can't even read the whole thing before you break the shrinkwrap, 2nd WE (ie the retailer) break the shrinkwrap and unbrick the phone, you see nothing until you have a working phone in your hands and lastly when using the phone you see no EULA appear on the screen of any sort.
The only place the EULA is in is iTunes and as a piece of paper in the box. So if you never use iTunes with your iPhone, bought it used and the EULA wasn't in the box then you never actually agreed to anything.

As for being a thief and a liar, well I'm not a thief because I didn't steal anything, everything installed was either freely available or paid for, Apple got their piece when I bought the phone, and rogers is getting my service fees. As for the liar part, well not really, I just changed my mind on the EULA, but since I can't return the phone (past return policy) and the EULA has no expiration date, I'm just going to use the phone as I see fit and wait for Apple to sue me. I'm not lying about anything I just don't have another option at this point.

Darkur people like u are the cancers of capatalism , innovation breeds healthy competion and thus : a better tec h community for all . I f u dont like the idea why not move to china where ur every movement and thought will be scrutinized to the extect u become ( as may well be the case ) a corporate cocksucking zombie , people like u mk me sik (sik)

I finally realized that not coming up with a lay term for "jailbreaking" is one of the biggest PR mistakes this side of the 21st century.

Jailbreaking is a technical term, and the reason why the process of making the phone able to install whatever apps you want is called jailbreaking is because of a simple concept. Think of it like your PC (if you have a PC, if not, use the Mac names).. You have My Computer, and you have a My Documents folder inside the C: drive in my computer.

Of course, you can click on My Documents to get to that folder, and you can click on My Computer to get everywhere else.

What Apple has done with the iPhone is COMPLETELY MAKE IT IMPOSSIBLE to get to a location other than My Documents. It fools you into thinking My Documents is My Computer.

This is called a chroot jail, and is what Apple has done. *gasp* Apple threw the innocent iPhone user in jail! *gasp* ;) .. yea that's about as silly as thinking just because it's called "jailbreaking" that you're breaking your phone, and believe me, I am being very kind here.

What the dev team should have done is come up with a more "friendly" sounding term for it.

That said, the only other thing I have to say, since no one else did, is put up the bit of info that jailbreaking is not illegal, and explain why (despite Apple name-dropping the DMCA)

The DMCA prohibits reverse engineering, etc. etc. devices that will circumvent the COPY PROTECTION of intellectual property such as DVD's, CD's, etc.

Jailbreaking DOES NOT circumvent any copy protection. It merely allows 3rd party apps to be installed and the phone's OS to be tweaked. Fairplay DRM remains intact, no copyright protection schemes are removed, etc.

That is why Apple's statement that Jailbreaking is illegal is a crock of .... If you read the article on Cydia Store at the Wall Street Journal, Saurik has a lawyer who has told him the law is on his side with this, and he has nothing to worry about.

Aren't jailbroken phones ground-zero for pirated iPhone App Store applications? Given that, why would I knowingly publish software there knowing that the Cydia folks have taken no steps to protect previous legitimate applications?

Well, my app is sitting in iTunes Connect awaiting approval from Apple. If they decide to approve it, it'll go on sale there. But the process is so opaque and frustrating that I'm convinced that what the App Store needs more than anything else is competition. So, even though I'm going "by the book" I can't help but see this as a good thing.

Don't bother trying to explain things to the troll. He gets it, he just wants to cause controversy. Ignore him, and he'll go away.

As for the Cydia App Store... I purchased the first app by Jay, Cyntact. What can I say? It's genius!

I have had my 3G iPhone since launch in July 08, and I find it hard to believe that I STILL own what is surely the ONLY cell phone that cannot forward SMS messages. It may not be 'big' in Cupertino, but us Brits forward all our best jokes to our friends. If I could get sms forwarding by jailbreaking, I'd be there tomorrow.

Damn Apple and their 'mother knows best' approach - they forget that the customer is 'King'....

I have had my 3G iPhone since launch in July 08, and I find it hard to believe that I STILL own what is surely the ONLY cell phone that cannot forward SMS messages. It may not be 'big' in Cupertino, but us Brits forward all our best jokes to our friends. If I could get sms forwarding by jailbreaking, I'd be there tomorrow.

Damn Apple and their 'mother knows best' approach - they forget that the customer is 'King;

@DRAKUL

Yes, my final comments were directed at you and similar. Unfortunately people who are "conformists with no imagination, and the mentality of a sheep and logic of a lemming" can't see that they are LIKE That, so I don't expect you to admit it. They take all "rules" literally without question and don't UNDERSTAND them or their Intentions. If Apple said "go jump off a bridge first" then I suppose you would?

And I disagree. I have not broken any laws and may legally use my iPhone as I choose. Sure there is a possibility that Apple might say "no warranty for you" If I bring in a jailbroken iPhone for service, but making that choice is not "illegal". Sorry. Coming from a family of Lawyers I am well versed on the "grey areas" of the 'system'. So is Apple - they may WISH it was illegal to jailbreak but it is not.