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As if things aren't bad enough... AT&T terms change targets Sling

AT&T has quietly changed their TOS (terms of service; it looks like the revision is targeted directly at the Sling software that is due out for the iPhone, and also other Sling apps that are currently running on other mobile phones on the AT&T Network.

Here's the nasty little section:

This means, by way of example only, that checking email, surfing the Internet, downloading legally acquired songs, and/or visiting corporate intranets is permitted, but downloading movies using P2P file sharing services, customer initiated redirection of television or other video or audio signals via any technology from a fixed location to a mobile device, web broadcasting, and/or for the operation of servers, telemetry devices and/or Supervisory Control and Data Acquisition devices is prohibited.

They also added this language:

On the 5GB DataConnect Plan, once you exceed your 5GB allowance you will be automatically charged $0.00048 per Kb for any data used. On the 200MB Data Connect Plan, once you exceed your 200MB allowance, you will be automatically charged $10 for an additional 100MB. Unused data from either your initial allowance or any overage allowance (e.g., the 100MB) will not be carried over to the next billing period; all data allowances must be used in the billing period in which the allowance is provided. On other plans with a monthly megabyte or gigabyte allowance, once you exceed your allowance you will be automatically charged overage as specified in the applicable rate plan information.

This can't be good news for those using Sling or Orb software, or those who were expecting the iPhone app. Other carriers do have similar language, but in my old days on Verizon I was able to use the SlingPlayer software on a Windows Mobile phone without hassle or threats.

After everyone already got pretty mad at Sling for making older SlingPlayers obsolete for use with the iPhone app, AT&T can now be added to the roster of offenders.

A Sling spokesperson, Jay Tannenbaum, told me today via email: "The most cost effective way to enjoy streaming content on any phone is by taking advantage of an unlimited data plan, something that we suggest to all our users. If there is no data cap, there's no problem. That said, we try to have good relations with all the carriers and try to deliver the best quality experience within the constraints of bandwidth and technology."

This quote doesn't specifically address the TOS changes, but at least it's dialogue.

Here's a link to the new TOS from AT&T Wireless. It will be interesting to see how this all sorts itself out.

Thanks to Jason and others who pointed this out.


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now4real954

I love it...

it's about time we spoke and the a--holes at AT&T woke up and paid attention...

they take and take and take from us and I am amazed that they are still in business...

I miss the days when AT&T was just a long distance company...that you had to deal with only if you had to call someone in another state

MCI was so much better in my opinion...they treated their customers with respect...but I'm sure that is why they are no more...at least I think they are no more...lol

Companies like AT&T, Comcast, and the like...that think they can just do whatever they want to do and get away with it should be destroyed

hell yes...someone would have sued AT&T for that change in TOS because it goes against everything that Apple has made the iPhone to be

and changing that would have probably caused Apple to have been able to break their contract with them...I bet Cook called them up and said "OH HELL NO YOU WONT"...and therefore the retraction

AT&T doesn’t want to piss off Apple because if it wasn’t for Apple they would not have the income that they have now...

great story...love how it got all worked out (I'm sure there is a catch in there somewhere) by the time I got to the end of the comments

peace mac heads...yeah

April 04 2009 at 4:23 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Luke

"The language added on March 30 to AT&T's wireless data service Terms and Conditions was done in error. It was brought to our attention and we have since removed it. We apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused."

From Engadget

April 03 2009 at 8:18 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Nonsanity

Looks like AT&T has retracted the change, claiming it was added in by mistake.
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April 03 2009 at 7:49 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Curtis

"customer initiated redirection of television or other video OR AUDIO signals via any technology from a fixed location to a mobile device, "

Does that mean that apps like Simplify Media to stream my music from my computer are also no longer allowed?

April 03 2009 at 7:20 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
munir

it seems like at&t has retracted the new ToS.

http://www.engadget.com/2009/04/03/atandt-retracts-new-terms-of-service-apologizes/

April 03 2009 at 7:17 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
rjspanish

PEOPLE THINK ABOUT THIS.................Customer initiated will/should not mean using an app approved by apple in the app store. It isn't "customer initiated" it is using a company approved app the way it was meant too. "Customer initiated" would be something that you streamed from a website in the mpeg4/h.264 format. Am I the only one that sees it this way? YouTube, Orb, Pandora ..........none of these will be banned and are not violating the new TOS. My two cents.

April 03 2009 at 7:16 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
EBone

I thought all the AT&T iPhone data plans in the US are 'Unlimited"? I guess that means nothing after this announcement.

April 03 2009 at 6:59 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Kento Ito

Well, it's just a matter of time before I end up leaving the US and move to other country, where the cell phone carriers are more friendly to CONSUMERS.

Man, now come to think of it, maybe T-Mobile and Sprint is not bad after all. T-Mobile, has better reputation, thanks to Android. (now powered by CADIE, which will kill us all)

April 03 2009 at 6:05 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Question

Am I correct in saying that if I am on a wireless network this would negate all data charges?

April 03 2009 at 5:59 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Geoff

I understand this is particularly bad for Sling and such, but how exactly would my viewing of a YouTube video clip on my iPhone not be "customer initiated redirection of television or other video or audio signals via any technology from a fixed location to a mobile device"?

The asset is stored in a fixed location (YouTube's server) and I am initiating its redirection from that location to my iPhone through AT&T's network by opening the YouTube app and requesting its playback.

I don't like that terminology at all.

April 03 2009 at 5:56 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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Geoff

Er, correction – not YouTube, actually, but rather streaming live QuickTime video from any random website.

April 03 2009 at 5:58 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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