It's the Feds! FCC quizzes Apple, AT&T and Google about Google Voice apps
Earlier today, the FCC (Federal Communications Commission) sent out letters to Apple, AT&T and Google, readable here [FCC's letter to Apple, to AT&T & to Google] asking each company about its involvement in the Google Voice app rejections. The agency is asking Apple to explain why the Google app was rejected and the third-party apps removed, if any VoIP apps have been approved, and whether there are general rules and regulations covering application approvals (something many developers would also love to know). It's worth noting that none of the Google Voice apps are VoIP (voice over IP) applications in the traditional sense, as they rely on the cellular carrier's voice network to handle calls, so it's not clear if the FCC understands this or if the agency is heading down a blind alley on this particular topic.
To Google, the letter asks if any other Google apps have been accepted in the store (we know there are a few), whether Apple explains the rejection process or the reasoning behind the treatment of Google Latitude, if there are other ways to use Google Voice on the iPhone (again, a somewhat naive question, as the service works fine via touchtone commands and Mobile Safari), and lastly and most intriguingly, what the app approval process is for Android applications (should be a short answer: "C'mon in, the water's fine!").
Finally, the agency is asking AT&T how the carrier was consulted on this decision, if any VoIP applications are running on their network (again, missing the point, since GV ≠ VoIP -- more relevant that there are BlackBerry apps for Google Voice that are happily on AT&T handsets), and whether AT&T can provide a list of rejected applications on the store while detailing the role it plays in approving possible 3G-enabled services like Sling.
The FCC has given the three companies until August 21 to respond to their letters; while the overall scope of the questions betrays quite a bit of agency unfamiliarity with the workings of the Google Voice service and the App Store, any movement toward openness and clear answers is positive. Hopefully, these responses will offer some insight into the story of this whole mess that has given everyone such indigestion over the past week.
[via Engadget, links to FCC via BusinessWeek]
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Earlier today, the FCC (Federal Communications Commission) sent out letters to Apple, AT&T and Google, readable here [FCC's letter to...
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Did you read the letters? Right there on the Google letter, it says:
"Please provide a description of the proposed Google Voice application for iPhone. What are the key features, and how does it operate (over a voice or data network, etc.)"
They don't mention VoIP at all. They ask if Google operates over the voice network (AT&T, where calls are normally placed) or a data network (Wi-Fi, Internet, etc.) FCC is playing dumb because they need to hear it from Google, AT&T and Apple themselves. They can't assume that GV isn't VoIP. They need to be told it isn't.
I love how all these conclusions are being made based on absolute bullshit. You guys don't know squat.
August 02 2009 at 11:56 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyMr. Bean,
Two issues with your post: 1) The letters were submitted a few DAYS ago, not "earlier today." Please, please, please for the love of all things Apple do SOME research before making a post.
2) Although I do agree with you that Google Voice is NOT VoIP, I don't think you need the knock the FCC so hard for using that term. How else would you describe the app? It's a fancy call-forwarder with rules, as well as an SMS app, which also happens to do voicemail. I'd say calling it a VoIP app isn't the worst thing the FCC has done in recent history.
Otherwise, good post. I'm *VERY* happy to see the FCC doing something about this. Apple & AT&T's practices are becoming uncompetitive and simply hurting consumers. You make an excellent point that Google Voice is running on many AT&T branded BlackBerries.
-MRCUR
the whole thing about VoIP is that ATT might claim that Google Voice infringes on their exclusive contract to handle phone calls from the phone. but a VoIP app does the same 'infringement' so if you allow one, you must allow all. disallow one and all must fall
August 12 2009 at 4:04 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI completely agree that if Apple bans one VoIP app, they all must go. All or nothing. It's apparently not going that way, so the FCC needs to step in and figure out who's running the show.
August 12 2009 at 5:25 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyThe more successful Apple becomes the more they become like Microsoft. I remember how Apple use to bash M$ about their practices.
For me, I'm becoming less of an apple "fan boy" and waiting for someone to take them out.
After reading a few of the other comments I had an idea. In the early '90s I used a phone and service called Tele-go. When you were out on the street it was a cdma cell phone but when you got in range of its base station in your home or office it became a landline so you didn't use cell minutes for calls.
If you could have a GV based app that could detect when you were on wifi and reroute your calls to voip and even have a simple rules engine that knew when you were roaming internationally so during the day calls went straight to VM instead and when you were back at the hotel you could make a receive calls over wifi - just as if you were stateside but without the billion dollar a minute roaming fee. Sure we can do most of this with skype but I like having one number and seamless integration.
It's not just a voice (voip) app. When you look what GV does it really makes sense that AT&T would be afraid of it. When you have features like voicemail transcripts, personalized greetings per caller, conference calling, phone switching, etc... many of these are features AT&T would like to sell you as add-ons to your account for a monthly fee and not have enabled by a free third party app. At least relegating it to the web interface kind of keeps it out of easy reach and thus out of mind.
AT&T spent millions implementing Visual Voicemail for the iphone and they want to protect that investment because once you start having network independent features the network itself because a commodity and consumers will have less reasons to maintain loyalty and will switch on a whim.
The FCC is asking a broad set of questions because that's where you get real information. FCC Attorneys are undoubtedly smarter than blog writers/readers in these matters, and it's very naive to suspect that the FCC is walking down a blind alley or that they are concerned with an app or two not making it to the App Store. I suspect that the FCC knows that Google Voice isn't VOIP, but simultaneously perceives that Apple and AT&T are colluding to prevent wide-scale VOIP from running on their devices/networks at significant expense to the consumer. An expense which is profitable to both AT&T and Apple (since Apple gets a rev share on AT&T service contracts). I don't think the FCC gives a rat's @ss about Google Voice, but it's a means to an end and a significant event to use as the trigger for an investigation. If the FCC can establish collusion between AT&T and Apple to reject apps that are harmful or less-friendly to both companies profits then you are potentially looking at a coercive monopoly involving one of the fastest growing consumer electronic products in the world. If the latter were not true the point would be moot. Finally, Apple and AT&T are taking the long view. If you allow an app like Google Voice into the App Store, Google can quickly build up it's VOIP capabilities. GV could easily make use of the existing push notification service to deliver telephone calls over the iPhone and AT&T's network, which means subscribers could cut back to the lowest monthly service contract + unlimited data, severely cutting into AT&T + Apple (rev share) profits.
August 01 2009 at 1:40 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyWhat does VoIP have to do with it? They're just asking for background information because this is part of on already ongoing investigation within the FCC, and they're trying to understand the market.
It's arguably a much more serious problem for all three companies because GV doesn't use VoIP. The FCC is investigating in general the relationships between phone manufacturers, carriers, and third party software vendors. GV is an ISV trying to innovate and compete, and we have a manufacturer and a carrier potentially conspiring to put the kibosh on that, and that's a big deal.
VoIP is just part of the equation and therefore just part of the letter: do carriers have a legitimate reason to limit its usage on their network (in terms of bandwidth, they probably do)? And it's also not: since GV is essentially just a dialer, and you're paying for your cell phone plan already, then Apple had better have a Very Good Reason for disallowing software that provides no technical difference to the operation of the phone.
actually, a good question to pose would be "define unlimited data". if you sell an unlimited data plan, but then restrict data usage, you're at best lying to the consumer and at worst protecting your monopoly as the only viable US GSM carrier.
August 01 2009 at 1:48 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyBeing from Germany I don't really know that much about the FCC and its role as a regulatory goverment agency, so maybe someone can explain to me whether Apple is actually obiged in some way (by law or whatever) to actually answer to the FCC at all�! Could they simply choose to ignore it and what would the possible consequences be�! Can the FCC actually force or order certain companies to fulfill their rulings�!
Thanks!
Yeah. They all HAVE to reply by then. If they don't, they could be federally charged, fined and possibly taken out of business, if I'm right. I'm not huge on FCC protocols, so someone feel free to correct me.
August 01 2009 at 12:20 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyThe Feds, like always, sure know what they are doing!
August 01 2009 at 10:49 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyHot Apps on TUAW
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