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So just a thought, if you had an iPhone, and switched it into Airplane Mode, effectively making the phone component inactive, does that then mean you can use it as a GPS machine? :^)

The other option I guess is an iPod Touch, with the Tom Tom app and cradle. There's no phone there either.

What's the difference?

I bought the Griffin WindowSeat and iTrip combination. Great combination for the Sygic Mobile Maps GPS app.

the original article was published in one state bagging the government of another state, you need to understand our local politics.

Not a national government issue, parochial state governments here, with a need to raise local funds through extra 'road taxes'

several local court cases were thrown out where iphone users were accused of making phone calls while driving...their defense?..using the GPS (hand held!!)
which is legal under current laws

so.. make all uses illegal, unless securely in a cradle.

all fair enough...touch a phone while driving, pay the fine!!

I'm sorry, but your assumptions are incorrect. In fact Vicroads categorically state that using a mobile phone as a GPS will be illegal. They state it here:

http://www.roadrules.vicroads.vic.gov.au/14_faq_using_mobile_phones_and_visual_display_units.html

The actual legislation in fact carries a blanket ban on all mobile use for fully licensed drivers, apart from making or receiving calls when the driver is not touching or looking at the phone (ie a bluetooth device or wired headset with remote answering/dial buttons is ok). Learners or probationary drivers are not allowed to use a mobile phone at all. The phone should be in a commercial holder. The legislation does not allow an exception for GPS use of a mobile phone in a holder at all. Phones are covered by rule 300 and dedicated GPS devices by rule 299 and rule 300 excludes mobile phones from the permitted use in a holder for GPS functionality that is allowed for devices covered by rule 299.

Legislation here:

http://austlii.law.uts.edu.au/au/legis/vic/num_reg/rsrr2009n94o2009289.txt/cgi-bin/download.cgi/download/au/legis/vic/num_reg/rsrr2009n94o2009289.txt

Sorry, but what's wrong with socialism and caring for your fellow man? It is not some sort of boogeyman. Liberty is a nice idea but you have to consider that what people want to do is not always in societies best interests, not least because humans are inherently selfish. This is why we have laws and this is a perfectly sensible one, not least because I do not see how you can use a GPS device properly without it being mounted on your dashboard.

Personally, I have an absolute hatred of people who use cellular telephones in the car while driving. It's just an accident waiting to happen...

Sorry, but are you trying to defend bad journalism? Yes, this is indeed a "blog" but I see no reason why we should not expect quality material and are entitled to point out flaws in articles if it will aid the production of better articles in the future. I see no reason why we should expect, or be tolerant of, bad journalism on sites such as this.

The new Victorian rule, and the equivalent in South Australia that has been in force for a year, prohibit any use of a mobile phone while driving, with one exception. The exception is making or receiving a phone call when the phone is in a cradle or when you can use the phone without touching it.

Use of a phone includes using any function of that phone, including looking at the phone.

Therefore having your mobile phone in a cradle will not allow you to use a GPS application on that phone while driving. You can't use an iPhone GPS app for driving in South Australia now or Victoria (from Nov 09).

Look who's talking... with the number of road-rage incidents in the USA...

Talking to someone whilst holding your cell-phone in one hand and attempting to drive with the other (elbow sticking out the window) doesn't make for safe driving.

We have already had incidents of coach (bus) and lorry (truck) drivers driving dangerously on motorways whilst using their cell-phones. One driver was so oblivious to other road users, he rammed a small vehicle which then got stuck under his cab and he drove for several miles without realising that there was a small car under him occupied by 3-4 fellow humans whose lives he had just ended due to extreme negligence.

In the wrong hands, a car is as lethal a weapon as a fully loaded gun.

As a driver of over thirty years and a cell-phone user of 15 years, I have always had a full hands-free car kit installed in my car. When upgrading or changing phones, I had to factor in the cost of the car kit.

I wasn't just thinking about other road users, but also the fact that I would also be risking my children's lives. Every road user, including cyclists and pedestrians have the right to not feel threatened or killed by other road users.

If you live in the UK:

visit eBay.co.uk and search for 120383713023 -- looks interesting, but uses cigar lighter socket for power, but shouldn't be difficult to wire it to an inline lighter socket, then to a fused, ignition controlled location in your fusebox. £17.99+free P&P.

NOTE: I have nothing to do with this seller -- I have this on my Watch List but am waiting to see how much the tomtom cradle will cost.