The battle escalates: Nokia files patent infringement complaint against Apple

Those who can, do. Those who can't, sue.

LOL i love that picture "NOKIA: suing people" hahahahaahahahah


Last time I had a nokia phone, the E71x... returned it on the 3rd day. S60 OS blows!

Nokia can't innovate, so they sue!

Are you people high?

Nokia BY FAR has the largest share of the global mobile handset market.

Apples share is a pimple on the buttcheek of said market. Apple has been knowingly infringing on Nokias many patents while they ramp up business and market share and settle later if they get away with it. It is a well-known strategy of Apple Inc...across many sectors. The thing is, Nokia is at the helm of this bobsled and has been for many moons.

I mean, have we really gotten so deep in to the mental stroking that we grab any figure out there, any story and dare not look below the surface?

There is a thing called Google. Use it and put the following in the search:

cell phone market share by manufacturer

-K

The main questions now:

Does Nokia's complaint to the U.S. International Trade Commission (ITC) have any bearing on the already ongoing litigation. Which has priority? Do the two run side-by-side?

Does the ITC have any legal clout? If the courts decide in Apple's favour but the ITC favour Nokia's case, which takes precedent?

This will run for years unless there is an out-of-court settlement and Apple could be way ahead of Nokia by the time the dust settles. Nokia could even go out of business if it spends spends spends in the hope of recouping losses by suing Apple and losing. Nokia would be forced to withdraw its goodwill and start suing every phone and computer manufacturer on this planet....

Yea just like SIP said, Nokia wanted Apple to pay more to license the same patents that every other cell phone maker license. That really smells of desperation too.

Yup, the next 15 comments will be about how Nokia sucks because this is an APPLE blog.

In any case, in the technology business, it's not as black and white about licensing patents. It appears to be quite normal that companies will try to get away with not licensing if they can and will even bully each other by leveraging their own patents. There's really nothing abnormal about these lawsuits. It's just business. Look at Palm and Apple. There is a lot of patent infringement on both sides, but they having filed any lawsuits against each other. Nokia could just leave it alone, but I think the fact that they didn't shows they are getting desperate.

Most of the GSM technology that Apple uses in the iPhone is also used by every other phone manufacturer. Nokia agreed to allow others to use this on a fixed "fair payment" basis.

The difference here is that Nokia wanted Apple to pay MORE than other manufacturers have to pay. Negotiations reached stalemate and that is when Nokia decided to sue Apple. Apple, in turn, (possibly rightly) countersued Nokia for infringing on Apple patents which are NOT covered by the "fair payment" agreement.

Nokia probably messed its pants and in a last ditch attempt has approached the U.S. International Trade Commission (ITC) probably in the hope that the ITC will force Apple to stop importing iPhones etc into the USA ONLY (similar to the Broadcomm case???).

Any ruling by the ITC prejudicial to Apple would mean that Apple would either have to stop selling iPhones in the USA or produce them locally (probably at double the price?). This ruling would not affect any other market, but as the US is the biggest outlet for Apple, it could dent Apple's profits.

Nokia is fighting a desperate battle, and has to stop losing market share and money -- around £17million last quarter?

Nokia: the new Microsoft!

Not sure what Nokia is worth but maybe Apple could buy them and just close shop. Transfer the employees to the app store so app approval process speeds up.

Or something like that.

Companies suing companies can be so silly.

Nokia: if you hold those patents, and you held them before the iPhone came along, then how come *you* didn't make the iPhone?