Apple considering stylus for the tablet? They've applied for a patent, but...
Steve Jobs hates styluses (styli?). At the January, 2007 Macworld Expo keynote where Jobs introduced the iPhone to the world, he went so far as to ask "Who wants a stylus?" and expressed his distaste for stylus input with a "Yeccch!"However, that hasn't kept Apple from applying for a patent on using a stylus on devices like the iPhone that are designed for finger input. The iPhone and other touchscreen devices use capacitive screens that require styluses with conductive tips. Older resistive screens, such as the one on the Apple Newton MessagePad (at right), could use virtually any plastic-tipped stylus for navigation and handwriting input.
The patent application, filed on January 14th, is titled "Stylus adapted for low resolution touch sensor panels", and lists John G. Elias as the applicant. Elias is one of the co-founders of FingerWorks, a company acquired by Apple in 2005 for its pioneering work on multi-touch interfaces. What this all means for tablet devices is unknown, but it's fascinating to see that the word "stylus" is still echoing around at least some of the conference rooms in Cupertino.
[via MacRumors]
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Steve Jobs hates styluses (styli?). At the January, 2007 Macworld Expo keynote where Jobs introduced the iPhone to the world, he went so...
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I think they're just getting a patent on their new Point of Sale devices they use in the store. Those do have the conductive tips, and the reason they have those is so people can sign on the ipod-touch-made-into-POS-device unit that they carry around.
I don't see them introducing a product that would require a stylus, but maybe they'd have it available for those who want to draw and handwrite on the tablet. Like the remote with their computers, it doesn't come WITH the computer anymore, but it's an option if you feel like you'd need it.
Stylus for the new tablet is not a bad idea.
But definitely not for pocket size devices like mobile phone or ipod.
Agreed. Steve's past comments were specifically regarding a PDA/smartphone sized product, and about being able to use said products for every day stuff (menus, most apps, etc). A tablet is a whole other fruit.
January 15 2010 at 10:58 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyCould indicate a secondary input device. They'd be crazy not to at least explore the concept of a 10.1 touchscreen as a sketchpad/easel. Here's my take: http://tastyslate.com/2010/01/15/new-patent-points-to-stylus-for-tablet/
January 15 2010 at 5:00 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyA stylus is a must have for digital art.
January 15 2010 at 1:37 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI'm relatively new (couple years) to the Mac world, but didn't something like this happen with Intel processors? Jobs said that they were inferior and wouldn't be used, but when it made more business sense the company switched?
I think Jobs is a genius, but no one is right 100% of the time and sometimes function outweighs form/CEO preference.
Intel didn't have the same processors (when he said that) that they did when Apple made the switch. Also, IBM (who made the PPC processor) wasn't really interested in pushing the technology, and Moto had already dropped out. PPC hit a wall and Intel had something new.
That being said, I would agree that Steve Jobs is hardly 100% right.
I would like to see a stylus, as an accessory, for apps like SketchBook Mobile and others. This would be a great sketching/presentation device for traveling designers. Hopefully, it would encourage the integration of other "design" applications.
January 15 2010 at 12:01 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyThe main caveats of styluses are the same as any writing/drawing instruments, size and weight. Which is often a user preference.
It gets worse when you want to use them on mobile devices as the stylus is shrunk so it can be stored within the device. The result being a stylus that is too short, thin, and light for comfortable use over extended periods. It's akin to writing a novel using a golf pencil.
I solve this issue by using a multi-function pen with a stylus nub, the regular pen size and weight being more comfortable to use.
With regard to what Steve said, I believe many have taken it out of context. Stylus input and navigation may not be the right choice for the iPhone, its still a valid method for larger mobile devices such as a tablet though.
Providing handwriting input/recognition on the tablet is a must in my opinion. Its the first interaction method that comes to mind when you hear 'tablet' or 'slate', its the most natural way to enter data in the given form factor, and it will allow functions such as note taking and digital art.
No way, no stylus is ever going to ship with an Apple product. If I have to open every box myself and take them out. I believe Apple will make a "gesture" for handwriting. Just hold your fingers and thumb as you would to actually write with a pen or pencil and the screen automatically knows you have a "stylus". The rest will be carried out through inwell.
Now that I have solved that mystery.
http://web.me.com/u1019/applebythehour/AppleByTheHour.html
The main issue I see with your suggestion of a gesture is that when you hold a pen/pencil with your index finger middle finger and thumb, none of them touch the writing surface. Instead it is your pinky and outer side of the hand which rest on the surface.
Your method would only work if; The display could recognise your pinky and outer hand, or have some way to detecting gestures in close proximity to, but not touching the screen.
I could certainly see a stylus coming with the Apple tablet, not for usual navigation but for handwriting and other fine-tip work. As great as the iPhone interface is, I think we can all agree that most people don't have fingers conducive to that kind of work. A stylus might almost be necessary for a tablet. If it doesn't have a one, I'll be interested to see how they fill that fine-tip void.
January 15 2010 at 9:58 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyIs there anything still patentable about a stylus? Or is this just another demonstration of why the US patent system is so screwed up and needs to be overhauled from top to bottom.
That aside, I think this patent filing is more about misdirection by Apple than anything else.
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