That $499 iPad only costs Apple $270; Wall Street analyst is elated
Apple is well-known in the consumer electronics world for relatively large margins on products. According to a bill of materials (BOM) breakdown on the iPad recently performed by BroadPoint AmTech analyst Brian Marshall, the iPad should be able to add a sizable chunk of money to Apple's bottom line. For the 16GB Wi-Fi iPad (US$499), Marshall found that the total BOM cost was $270.50. Manufacturing adds $10 to the cost, and warranty service costs add up to $20. In case you're wondering, the flash memory and the aluminum case both cost about $25, and the Apple A4 processor adds just $15 to the total cost of the iPad.
While the entry-level iPad may appear to be a cash cow for Apple, the 32GB and 64GB Wi-Fi models add even more margin to the mix. The 32GB model costs only $25.50 more than the 16GB, but the suggested retail price is $100 more. Apple will really make money on the 64GB model, which costs $76.50 more than the 16GB device but sells for $200 more.
Marshall had a chance to use an iPad, which led him to believe that "...this will be another grand slam product for Apple. The ergonomics and the 'media' experience of the device stood out the most to us." His original estimate was for Apple to sell about 2.2 million units in 2010. He's now expecting sales to be much higher. As an example, he feels that if Apple sells seven million units, calendar year earnings per share for Apple would rise from $12 to over $13.
Marshall is definitely bullish on Apple, having rated AAPL a "buy" with a target price of $264 per share. Considering the trashing that Apple and most other tech stocks have taken recently, the company has long way to go -- and a lot of iPads to sell - before reaching that target price.
[via Hardware Central]
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Personally I think this guy Is way off with some of his numbers. The thing is this is a wild ass guess until more info about the tablet comes out and Apple releases more hardware details.
Given that I had estimated before release that the iPad would come in under $500, retail, for the base model. That was for a model with even more flash and an assumption that the processor was dual core.
That guess was fairly easy to make as all one has to do is to talley up the cost of parts to make the unit and double that number and maybe add a fudge factor to hit a nice marketing number.
I'm actually surprised at the level of ignorance displayed in this thread about business in general. I have to wonder if people realize that this is a rather modest mark up relative to many businesses. Think about this the next time you go out to a resturant and order pasta. Or the next time you buy asprin and look at the wide array of pricing for the same basic medication.
I had an interesting conversation a year or so ago about potential business start ups. One thing that the conversation revolved around is the diffrence between selling people things they want vs things they need. Your ability to make money is far greater if you focus on selling things people want as opposed to need. Apple makes things people want as such they can command higher prices.
It is not unlike the watch industry. If you need a watch, for what ever reason, then a customer will often choose the cheapest item to get the job done. If the customer feels that he has to make a statement, that is wants, the retailer is far more likely to move a highly profitable watch.
I only bring this up because I see todays iPhone/Touch to be the modern day equivalent of a pocket watch. Like in times past a watch was a tool for successfully running a business, todays smart phone is such a modern day tool. As such it is possible for such a device to be both wanted and needed. That drives sales and helps Apple maintain margins on the iPhone.
Dave
There were so many people talking about iPad on Twitter that it was one of the top trending topics for a while - check out the video at http://www.joshrimer.com/mass-effect-2-thoughtsonthetoilet-apple-tablet/ to see some of the more entertaining ones in a funny video. :-)
February 03 2010 at 2:42 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyR&D costs, really? How much do you think it costs to take an already existing product and simply make it larger?
February 03 2010 at 1:42 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyIt's so much more than just buying bigger parts. No one has made a multitouch screen (that works great) this big. Heck competitors still can beat the iPhone's MT screen.
Also it's unibody design. Not even the same as the iPhone or iPod Touch.
Show me anybody that can do this at this price? A real product that multiple people have hands on reviews. Not vaporware like the Joo Joo.
I have two words - FIXED COSTS! Did the person who arrived at this estimate know anything about costing?? Can u imagine the costs of RETAIL and MARKETING for a company like Apple. And how do u arrive at a Bill of Material break-down without opening up the product. In fact, factor in Economies of Scale and high BARGAINING POWER WITH SUPPLIERS and the cost of materials will probably be lower than this per unit (as opposed to bulk purchases) estimate. This article doesn't even deserve a mention on TUAW!!!!
February 03 2010 at 1:33 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyThis is what apple has to say about there pricing http://gopost.info/76
February 03 2010 at 12:27 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI wonder how much money Microsoft makes on a copy of Windows 7?
February 03 2010 at 12:08 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyAccording to rueters microsoft makes 60% profit http://gopost.info/77
February 03 2010 at 12:30 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Reply@eric. Revenue from profit jumped 60%. That is not a 60% profit. Windows 7 might only make 10% profit, but with the massive sales, revenue increased 60%.
For instance, Apple could lower the iPad price significantly and make less product, but will likely sell more units. It is possible that they could actually make more overall profit revenue that way. Or maybe not.
The iPad, first gen, is a new device and really only the Apple fans and those swayed by Apple marketing will buy into it. So high margins makes sense for Apple. Just like Apple TV - that isn't worth the price at all. We have yet to see if iPads end up working. If I see tons of people pulling them out at Cafes like iPhones and iPods are, then I will know that the iPad is a hit.
Overall, it's pretty pathetic and sickening. On the bright side, at least the base model is one item for the price of two, which is a slight improvement on Apple's usual one item for the price of three. Even if some sort of law was made against outrageous markups, Apple would likely find a loophole since they are obsessed with how much money they can make. They are just lucky the world is not full of customers as informed and determined as myself; otherwise, they would not have enough business to survive on, high margins or not.
February 03 2010 at 11:43 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Reply"The labour of two days is that for which you ask two hundred guineas?"
"No. I ask it for the knowledge I have gained in the work of a lifetime!"
http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/James_McNeill_Whistler
Gal goes into a high street shop and says "I need a hat, a glorious hat - I am going to a ball and require the most beautiful of hats."
The shopkeeper says "I know just the thing," and takes a piece of ribbon off the shelf. After twining the ribbon through itself many, many times and placing one brooch at the final knot, he's made a gorgeous hat the likes of which Aphrodite would have said "Damn, that would just be PERFECT."
The customer asks the cost and is told two hundred dollars. In a huffy voice, she asks "Two hundred for a bit of ribbon? That's ludicrous!"
The shopkeeper takes the hat, and removing the brooch returns the hat to its original state as a length of ribbon. He hands her the unfurled ribbon with the statement, "For you, the ribbon is free."
What?! The retail cost of a product is higher than the hardware costs and also includes R&D, Marketing, Packaging, Shipping... AND profit?!
*gasp*
Also, I call shenanigans on some of the calculations? Sure, in the end, it might cost $15 to manufacture the A1 chip itself... but can you imagine how much that thing cost to develop? The chip alone probably cost Apple millions in R&D.
Weird how you say "the chip probably costs Apple millions to make"
Well, lets just say that it costs Apple 50million to R&D the chips. Analysis predict up to 5mil iPads will be sold the first year. Ok, that means we increase the cost of the iPad by $10 more. Shipping, and in-store sales, a few more dollars.
But then, wasn't there a report that Apple makes a 40% profit margin on their products on a whole? Good for them! Bad for Apple owners, heh. When they say profit, they mean above and beyond all those costs. That profit goes into the shareholder's pockets and keep Jobs' closet stocked with nice new black turtlenecks.
I wish sites would stop linking to this rubbish. These "costs" are bogus because they ignore all the R&D costs. Apple has likely spent millions of dollars over the years on a tablet device. Just because current market parts costs are a certain amount doesn't mean Apple will actually make a profit on this device any time soon.
Frankly, it doesn't matter if it cost 10 cents to make. Prices are dictated by demand, so the product will sell for whatever people are willing to pay for it. These stories are fodder for people who have no idea about what it actually costs to bring a product to market.
These reports are mainly for investors; to gauge how much money a unit sale is likely to add to the bottom line of a company. All the R&D and Engineering costs have already been paid for by the time these hit the shelves so they have been accounted for in previous Quarters so they haven't been included in the final price, nor has retail costs like shipping, sales clerk wages and retail store rent.
These reports are not tailored for the average consumer who doesn't know how the market works.
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