Flying Magazine blogger wants an iPad in the cockpit
Here at TUAW, we've talked about some potential markets for the iPad; for example, the health care industry. Over at Flying Magazine's website, blogger Robert Goyer is lusting after the iPad as a tool in the cockpit.The iPhone has become a pilot's toolkit since the App Store opened, with apps like Flight Plan - Pilot's Toolbox [iTunes Link] and CoPilot - Flight Planning [iTunes Link] making it into the cockpit for private and commercial pilots alike.
Goyer loves the idea that the iPad will have a much larger display than the iPhone and, most importantly for the quick pace of flying, that it's an instant-on device unlike many laptops. He thinks that the 3G models will be most useful for aviation since they'll provide online access to a plethora of aviation, regulatory, and weather-related data sources.
What Goyer is looking forward to the most about the iPad is that extra screen real estate. As he says in his post, he'll likely go with a netbook for situations when he's not in the cockpit. But while flying, the iPad's "brilliant display" and GPS capability should make it "supremely easy to use" for pilots needing map apps. We can't wait to see what flies into view.
[Thanks to @RyanACash for the Twitter tip]
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My iPhone with a few apps already does the trick just fine! http://www.pilottimes.com/iphone-apps/ Plus I'm not convinced the aGPS on the iPad will work well. I'll wait for the iPad Generation 2 maybe.
February 08 2010 at 9:43 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyA 3g signal, no. GPS signal, yes.
No one here is talking about that... but that's not how a pilot would use the iPad. Instead, look at this...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_flight_bag
I honestly thought the iPad was relatively useless until I saw this post. I love ForeFlight, but reading diagrams on the iPhone are a pain. On the iPad, I could see it being so much better, even relegating my kneeboard to backup duties if the keyboard is usable.
Ian
there is no service 10,000 feet up so good luck trying to use any data service
February 06 2010 at 4:33 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyAt last - somebody finally gets what I've been blathering on about for 20 years, right back to the original Active Book. A portable compute device of 9-12" screen size can do so many useful things in a car, boat or plane. Slot it into the vehicle and have it be the instrumentation. Maintain service records and log readings of oil pressure, temperature, all those important indicators. Do your navigation and pilot log duties.
Yes, a laptop can do the computer and display stuff, but only if you can find a way to mount it so that the silly great lump of case & keyboard doesn't get right in the way. And using a keyboard in the car/boat/plane isn't such a great a idea, whereas a touch screen can be made to work quite nicely thank you.
The same dialog is occurring accross the marine navigation world:
http://www.macsailing.net/fbb/showtopic.php?tid/935/
http://www.panbo.com/archives/2010/01/the_apple_thingy_great_for_boats.html#more
http://blog.francis-fustier.fr/en/navigation/ipad-un-nouveau-support-pour-inavx/
The genius of the iPad hardware, combined with Apple's SDK and the app store, is that software solutions can evolve relatively easily and quickly to serve a host of specialized marketplaces, such as engineers, architects, the medical community, educators, artists, etc., etc., etc., and do it at a price point that seems ridiculously low compared to the solutions available within those communities previously. All while providing capabilities and a user experience that extends what was available previously.
The reasoning behind the FCC regulation is that a plane full of 400 cell phones could potentially be connecting to multiple towers, because of their altitude.
I've been itching for the iPad in the cockpit as well. I run ForeFlight Mobile and it's a dream to work with. I can download full plates, VFR and IFR charts all in one device. PDFplates.com is a great free option just for plates. Being able to quickly access downloaded NOTAMS and TFR information at a glance would be fantastic.
I wonder if it would be possible for XM to connect to the iPad? for NEXRAD and METAR information?
Perhaps a company like WxWorx could develop an interface for the iPad connect to the iPad with their bluetooth interface. Then all you need is the software to talk to the WxWorx XM receiver.
I already have XM weather and traffic (via a Zaon XRX) fed to a panel mounted garmin 696. Approach plates and charts on the 696 are still not an ideal solution, plus the subscription to download them is cost prohibitive from Jeppesen. I was looking for an ereader like the Kindle DX or similar... the iPad and Foreflight Mobile seem like a good solution (with only a $75 annual data subscription)... and there may be other developers out there who do some amazing things with the SDK that could make the experience even better.
I like the ideas about the iPad being used for IT support and for navigation but has anyone thought of the iPad as a great tool for teaching? I am a pastor in the Chicago area and my thoughts when the iPad came out were about how I could utilize it to help my teaching and preaching. Likewise, professors or anyone giving lectures could use the iPad as notes, a remote, clock, communication with the guy running sound... you name it. Any thoughts?
February 05 2010 at 10:30 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI ignore the rules and never put my iPhone on Airplane Mode when flying. The entire thing is just a myth. Additionally, after takeoff, all service is lost in less than a couple minutes.
February 05 2010 at 9:19 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyYou're correct. They were actually thinking about getting rid of the ban a few years ago when Europe did the same thing but decided not to because there was a backlash from people not wanting to have to listen to a plane full of people on the phone. I know I sure as hell don't. I also never put my iPhone in airplane mode on the place though.
February 05 2010 at 9:49 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Reply"As for actually making a call while cruising at 7,500 feet in a Cessna 182... good luck, my experience has been that reception is extremely spotty and the only time you have service is when flying of a decent sized town with lots of cell towers. Even then, you can usually only get away with shooting off a quick SMS message before losing the signal again."
Yeah I have to echo this as well. Cell service is not good in the air. I have nothing to back this up but my guess is that cell towers aren't oriented to broadcast signal up but rather outward and down. SMS is about the extent of service you can expect in the air. My pilot friend was seriously considering an iPad until I pointed out that he'd get no reception.
Funny.. I ran GPS tracker on my iPhone on one of my flights a few weeks back. Was only between 3500 and 4000 feet, but it was able to track and transmit my position for most of the flight.
Maybe I was at the magic altitude though. I haven't really spent any time staring at my phone while in the cockpit.
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