HP attacks Apple iPad over Flash

the only reason that you love the ipad is because it`s made by apple. can you at least give hp a chance.

so now we are told CS5 will have flash to html5 converter...

so who is adobe fooling??
maybe they are pedalling fast behind the scenes, after all they appear to have been asleep for years with flash...time to wake up before iPad arrives

No Flash = no Homestar Runner or Newgrounds = no sale.

So, Wait, forget all this stuff about Flash for a moment. When I turn on an HP slate and try to configure my network settings, screen brightness, email accounts or any of the other myriad of Windows 7 related settings am I going to face standard Windows 7 dialog boxes, with their tiny checkboxes, radio buttons, edit fields, OK/Cancel buttons, etc?

All these videos of the Slate seem to show either a skinned interface or a touch application running in the foreground, but I imagine I would still have to go (frequently) into the land of standard Windows UI to get some basic things done. And this is what I think is the failing of all the non-iPad devices: underneath the (very shallow) surface layer is a very standard, non finger-friendly, dektop-class UI that was meant to be driven via a keyboard and mouse.

Can you imagine trying to run Outlook, Word, or Excel on one of these devices using your fingers only? Or is MS going to come up with touch versions of these apps like Apple has done?

Flash is different? No flash needed for this: http://www.mugtug.com/sketchpad

I don't think that the iPad will be an out-and-out failure due to the lack of Flash, and I'm sure that other technologies will be forced to come up to speed to compensate for it.

However, what would we all be saying if the iPad had Flash and the HP device didn't, and HP/Microsoft was crowing about Flash being obsolete?

I know I'm late to the party, but what the hell. In the long video on the blog, he demos playing some very mouse-centric game which only involves clicking the mouse (not even dragging.) Great. Now go find one of the many (the majority, from what I've seen) that also need KEYBOARD control. Tell me how easy THAT is to play with a virtual keyboard (on ANY platform.)

If I had to choose between ALWAYS having Flash and NEVER having Flash, I'd choose never in a second. 99% of the Flash I see is ads. If a site owner wants to have a 100% Flash site and I really want to see it I'll find another machine if needed. But it doesn't happen that often. I've got flashblockers on every platform that supports them I there are DAYS that go by that I don't once click on them to enable some content.

I'm surprised no one has mentioned one of the biggest drawbacks to Flash: security.

When the hacker that has won pwn-to-own several times says to avoid flash because it is the number one vector for cracking a machine maybe it should be taken seriously?

Now add the HP Slate is running Windows, IE, AND Flash? That will be a malware/spyware/virus infestation waiting to happen.

@Jordan is going to have a very long list of misguided iPad quotes to point and laugh at, along with his pitiful quotes on other Apple products.

I agree with Jordan on this one. I'm sorry, but HP is right and most of you are too blinded by Apple to see that. The internet on the iPad is NOT the whole internet without plugins like flash, and if I need to carry around my MacBook to be able to watch TV, I might as well forgo the iPad altogether. I love my MacBook Air and don't see the iPad coming close in many situations, as much as I want it.