Greenpeace 'unappy' with iPad cloud

However misdirected, Greenpeace is getting a great deal of press for their attacks on Google, Facebook, and Apple: the IT sector is small but growing, so it’s nice to see energy sourcing in the headlines if only because such popular corporations are forced to respond to their coal-intensive data centers and cloud computing.

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How about tuaw implements something like actually requiring its users to read the articles it links to before allowing them to comment?

It seems very few actually read the articles and I find that quite disappointing.

am beginning to hate greenpeace

To actually quote Greenpeace: "Get out of the computer business (and) go save some whales".

umm... hypocrite? where's greenpeace.com hosted at? some solar-powered webserver in the desert?

Screw Greenpeace, and screw the "global warming"/"climate change" hoax! WTF are we all supposed to do? Live in the stone age? Let these people live that way, but I'm not going to.

I'm not a big fan of Green Peace nor some of their recent tactics, but it is a good thing people are shinning a little light on the stupidity of cloud computing and streaming services. Both are similar in concept and a move in the wrong direction simply based on measurable technical issues. You don't even need to bring the environment into it.

For one thing there simply isn't enough RF band width to support the things these people are dreaming about. Even with all the short term foreseeable technology improvements you won't be able to support each person on the planet having their own radio station broadcasting to them on demand. That is basically what streaming is and similarly what cloud computing is.

It is one thing to envision a wired system doing this but I don't see it as remotely possible over RF links like 3G/4G/WhateverG. The way the service providers are currently scrambling for more spectrum should highlight this problem.

I could go on but the idea of streaming services and cloud computing just boggles the mind. You are talking about an incredible amount of infrastructure to support little Johnny watching a video or listening to music. Sadly it actually strikes me as a regression for the consumer as we will end up paying many times what we are currently paying for media, especially anything listened to often.

Dave

Every and each of these 'Greenpeace' self-proclaimed planet Earth 'saviors' would sell their ass to put their little green fingers on a new shiny iPad.
Get a life Greenpeace. (and an iPad)

Ok I'm sorry but what dies greenpeace do ?

Knowing a few green fanatics personally, these guys simply reject fossil fuels, absolutely. ...Even though they have cross wired their brainwashing and confuse environmental issues with supply issues.

Way back before any of them even knew who Al Gore was - the Al Gore who was making fistfuls of cash from oil and trying to censor rock 'n roll - there used to be a lot of hype that fossil fulls were going to run out "any day now" and we would have to move to alternative fuels. Fast forward 20-30 years, factor in that technology and oil/coal exploration did not stay at a standstill, and we have whats essentially an unlimited (several hundred years) supply again. Even the great and mighty OZ, er Obama himself, is advocating drilling for Oil off America's shores...

What that means to us and coal is that technology and regulation do allow for using coal cleanly and without destroying thousands of acres of land.

Don't get me wrong, coal is still the WORST polluter (significantly greater than secondhand cig smoke outside!!!!!!) However, for any knee-jerk hippy org to condemn cloud computing is just another layer of onion skin from their misinformation press. Cloud computing saves energy and the environment by reducing local power consumption and under-utilized hardware (ie near future landfill).

The bottom line is that we can several million harddisks and environmentally unfriendly batteries - and circuit boards - duck-taped on to our cloud devices... or we could have significantly less of all that junk clustered throughout that country run by entities who are more apt to subscribe to green energy because they can get it at a better cost and have budgets for adapting to it (Google corp comes to mind).