Rumor: Adobe to sue Apple over SDK rules
This seemed like it was destined to happen; word out of Silicon Valley is that Adobe is planning a big lawsuit against Apple for keeping Flash off of the iPhone and iPad platforms.The final straw, apparently, was a change in Apple's SDK language prohibiting apps to be written with anything other than Apple-approved tools, and unfortunately for them, Adobe's solution isn't on that golden list.
Publicly, Adobe has been circumspect, only noting that they're "looking into it," while continuing to develop and support bringing Flash apps into the iPhone OS.
Apple CEO Steve Jobs has trashed Flash as unreliable and called it a dying technology. Of course, any apps built with Adobe tools are beyond Apple's control, and Apple likes control, in case you missed that.
Adobe has already said Apple's refusal to allow Flash to run on its mobile products means a serious business risk. Meanwhile, Microsoft says it will support Flash on its new Kin phones, but it is also pushing a Flash competitor, Silverlight.
As usual, the lawyers on all sides will make plenty of money. If Adobe does sue and the suit makes it to court without a settlement, a final resolution could take years.
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good. When I found out that Flash could export to iPhone apps I nearly wept. Finally, an easy way to make some apps! Then Apple has to go and fuck it up. Was it a jab at Adobe? I dont know, and I dont care. It needs to be fixed.
April 15 2010 at 5:07 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyIf Adobe were to sue Apple because Apple requires developers to use development tools other than those made by Adobe; then it is likely that when the suit gets dismissed Adobe will be ordered to pay to Apple and it's counsel significant court costs and legal fees for having filed a frivolous lawsuit.
April 15 2010 at 4:28 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI read on another blog that Apple's new coding tools maybecause of upcoming hardware architecture changes... Plus, I can't see where apple and Adobe compete for market-share.
April 15 2010 at 3:06 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyThe thing about the xbox and playstation is that they has strict rules, but those are set and known. The problem with the appstore and this jerk move in particular is that Apple seems to change the rules as they go along, randomly as they please. Who in their right mind is going to invest money into that kind of market?
The one thing people tend to forget about in all their flash and adobe is crap so i am fine with mentality is that this is hurting a lot of very serious developers. Because it is not only about Flash and Adobe it is about all sorts of cross compiling. And it will drive a lot of good developers away. The ones that are not harmed are the ones that didn't invest much and throw out crap apps.
Apple should have rather worked on a way of ensuring more premium, more high quality apps .. helping the developers and themself by making the appstore a place where you can earn good money, because people recognize it will be good apps. Instead they make these move that drive away good developers and come up with iAds, so that the crap apps out there are even going to be filled with ads more easily now.
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LOL. Someone already used the m-word (monopolistic.) Idiot.
Honda doesn't service Fords. Does this make Honda a monopoly?
CBS doesn't broadcast Lost. Does this make CBS a monopoly?
No, and no, in case you were wondering. It's a free country, brother, and if Apple doesn't want to support Flash, they don't have to.
Either way, win or lose, Apple still benefits by killing Flash. If the case never makes it to court (and I have a gut feeling it won't), Apple wins, Flash dies. If the case makes it to court and Apple wins, Flash dies. If the case makes it to court and Apple loses, Flash won't show up on iPhone/iPad/iPod Touch for at least 3 years, and by then HTML5 will have replaced Flash anyway. Either way, Flash dies.
But Flash is just a minor point. The major point is that Apple doesn't want to wait for any 3rd party developer to update their development platform. Apple wants to be able to move their Mac/iPad/iPod software ahead along with their hardware as quickly as possible. Adobe acted like a boat anchor during the Motorola to Intel transition. Took them 2 years to release an Intel-native OS X version of their overpriced CSx bloatware, and many Mac users were burdened with said bloatware and depended on it.
If Apple wants to go further than just killing Flash, they could easily kill off CS5 on Mac. How? By releasing a software suite of their own that does, say, 80% of what CS5 does for 20% of the price. If the Apple suite only ran on Mac OS X, it would boost sales of Macs and possibly iPads. If the Apple suite ran on Mac and PC, it could kill Adobe altogether.
Something to think about, eh, Steve? Payback for Adobe's passive-aggressiveness?
I am not a programmer so may be WAY off base here but wouldn't the easiest solution to this is for Adobe to make its CS5 programs not compile to an iPhone app directly but compile to C+ or C++ instead (using standard libraries if there is such a thing) and then it would pass the new guidelines.
April 15 2010 at 2:42 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyAww, it's cute to watch you nerds slap-fight. Adobe and Apple both have such loyal followers - this is such a hot issue!
April 15 2010 at 2:28 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyCORRECTION: The Kin does NOT support Flash. Geez. Get your facts straight.
"there's no support for in-browser Flash or Silverlight"
http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/12/microsoft-kin-one-and-kin-two-announced-windows-phone-roots-wit/
Oh, and before someone decides to tell me "it's not about Flash in the browser, it's about building applications in Flash"... Microsoft is NOT allowing ANY apps on the Kins other than the few they make themselves and ship with the phone... and MS is not going to be developing in-house apps in Flash. They have this little product called Silverlight, you may have heard of it....
Let's see, Reporting on a rumor. Using blatantly false assertions to try and score points. This journalism belongs on Fox News, not TUAW.
Wow you all need to learn to read. The lawsuit is about Apple not letting other tools be used to make iphone apps. It's the same as if Microsoft came out and said you can only use Visual Studio to make Windows apps. Of course they would get sued to high heaven for being anti-competitive.
The Apple is a closed system argument is bunk because there are 3rd party apps on the iphone. Once you become as big as Apple has with the iphone there are things you can no longer dictate because you then become anti-competitive.
It doesn't really matter how big Apple becomes in the smart-phone market, as long as there are other players around. Looking at software platforms, they include Android, MS, Symbian, RIM, SonyEricsson and poor old Palm.
Almost every smartphone manufacturer apart from Apple, RIM and Palm use a version of the other software platforms.
Please don't quote the DoJ/MS fiasco because that was a wholly different issue.
Apple can dictate all it wants until it becomes the ONLY smart-phone manufacturer.
Please Mister Jobs, won't you buy Adobe and fix it?
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