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iPads for high school students? Yes, thanks. The Santa Cruz Sentinel reports that Monte Vista Christian School has 60 iPads ready to serve advanced placement students with e-books instead of the clunky old paper variety. The pilot project may expand to more students if all goes well.

Teachers love the ability to get definitions of words with a click, and the access to video and newspapers. In some classes, students are using the iPads for anatomy demonstrations.

The paper says English teacher Marcus Schwager is excited to show students how to look up obscure words in Shakespeare and get the proper pronunciations.

While the school is among the first to explore the iPad as an educational resource, it surely won't be the last. To smooth the way, Apple has provided a US$50 discount on the iPads, and it has a program to train teachers in how to use them.


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PITBULL

Sorry but i feel that all schools should start using E-Readers or iPad style devices for these students . It would be allot less that these students would have to carry around with them , they could get notes and recorder there lessens from the teachers and if the schools where smart they would setup a STUDENT E-Mail system . where the students could email these teachers there home work .

it would get more students into learning , home work would be delivered on time everyday , and E-readers or iPads would be allot less for these students then there text books . Even if the schools sold these iPads or E-Readers to the parents ( for the student ) .

Classic books - anywhere from 50 to 100 dollars per text books .

iPad -600 dollars per student .

Each student would need at least 5 books per year ( History ,Math ,English ,Science and Elective classes ) . if you average each book to a 75 dollar system these books are casting 375 dollars per student each year . High school is a good 4 years in that 4 years those kids get 1500 dollars worth of books , not including all there elective books for classes like Spanish , Cooking , or other classes out there .

One iPad for 4 years only cost them 600 dollars . saving these schools 900 dollars per student for there 4 years in highschool . Meaning more money for Elective classes , teachers and even improvements to the schools .

Most schools have about a good 1000 students . Meaning they would be saving 900,000 dollars with in 4 years of a high school . Take these to other schools ( Middle Schools , and elementary schools ) and are school systems would be saving millions of dollars every year . Money that would be spent on getting more teachers .

Heck Elementary Schools dont even need an iPad per student , just for the teachers .

April 26 2010 at 6:04 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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jsiegl

Pitbull makes some interesting points that are common in arguments for online textbooks (they are cheaper, weigh less) however there are a few important facts that are missing in the calculations. I just went through the same exercise in the school district in which I work.

Schools do not purchase textbooks new each year. A typical school might purchase a textbook or a given subject once every seven years, so the annual cost of providing textbooks to students is not 5 x 75 = $375, it is (5 x 75)/7 = $53.57 for a 4 year cost of $214.28.

Assuming that an iPad would last 4 years (an unknown at this point) and that student must replace the battery after 2 years, the 4 year hardware cost is at least $598. This does not include the actual cost of an electronic version of the textbook, which is going to run you a little more than $10 a year for the big three K12 textbook vendors.

So the cost of a textbook on the iPad for 5 subjects for 4 years is...

iPad(499+99)+Textbook subscriptions($4 x 5 x $10) or $1297

The cost for the 4 year cost for print is $214.28(see above)

The iPad is $1082.72 more expensive over 4 years.

So the iPad would cost the district an additional 1.08 Million dollars over 4 years.

(this is assuming that there were a majority k12 online textbooks that could display on the iPad, which will eventually happen)

The iPad and other instructional technologies can have a powerful impact on student learning and engagement but too often schools get caught up in the enthusiasm for new technology and put it into the classroom without much thought to the total cost, or the training necessary to support the teacher in the best use of it.


April 26 2010 at 8:12 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
PITBULL

I really love your math on this , and yes your text book math is correct . But what you do forget is that the iPad takes a few other options for the schools away ...

With the iPad you have a few options that the SCHOOLS wouldnt nee anymore .

1. Libra's - With the iPad you wouldn't need a libra , Yes this would mean Liberians would lose there jobs . But at the same time would also let them keep there Jobs in a new way . Instead of having a room filled with books that kids dont read half the time , There could be converted into a STUDY HALL . With seats and KEY Boards for iPads ( so kids or students could do work there ) .

2. Computers - School computers wouldn't be needed anymore ( at least not for all classes ) . Students would have there iPads for Internet search , to everything else they might need for that class ( record a your teachers speeches , to taking notes for the classes ) . Teachers could E-Mail there weekly home work to the students , to receiving there homework threw an email .

So seeing how schools spend a few thousand dollars a year on new BOOKS for Libra's to Computers for class rooms ( Not all class rooms ) , there is also the fact of Paper for the class rooms wouldnt be needed to pens and pencils .

The only thing kids would have to use would be an iPad . As for the battery life on these iPads , well i think they could last longer the 2years . I have had my iPhone for a good 2 years with not problems with my Battery . The iPads battery life is no less better but last longer then my own iPhone . I would say that the batteries could last these kids a good 4 years .

Now as for the students and witch kind of iPad they get , well the schools could work something out on that .

The students could be giving the options or the schools could do it where each year would get a different model ..

9th Grade - 16GB Model , with a cover that the student pays for ( 10 to 20 dollars ) .

10 and 11th grades - 32GB Models again with students paying for a cover .

12 Grade - 64GB model , again with where the students buy a cover .

Either the students could buy there own iPads or the schools will supply the iPad with the the meaning that if you break it you buy it deal like with the School text books .

each year the student would give back there iPads where the schools could have then checked out and cleared out for the next student . The schools would have to over order iPads , but it would insure that each student would get an iPad .

Teachers would get there own iPad as well .

Schools would have to only setup a few things .

1. Wifi for each class room .
2. Textbook system for every class ( meaning a deal with the text book makers for a flat fee deal ) .
3. Class for teachers to learn to use there iPads .
4. Email for all students and teachers ( google is free and easy to setup ) .

It wouldnt be hard to save money with each Highschool student using the iPads . The schools would now have to worry about a few things at there schools ..

1. Teachers .
2. WiFi
3. A few computers within the study hall for students with out computers at home to download books on to there ipads . Making the Study Hall computers there Libra's . ( With teachers or anyone in charge getting the books on those computers for the students ) .
4. Repairs on iPads that might have a problem ...

April 28 2010 at 2:21 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Al

When I was growing up in Santa Cruz, Monte vista private school has always been on the wealthier side. It is no suprise that they Would be one of the first schools on board to get ipads. A charter school very similar to Monte vista in the Santa Cruz area required every student to have a laptop. Keep in mind that this was in 1996 for 6th graders! All of these schools are real close to Monterey and carmel, some of the richest in the country.

April 25 2010 at 11:35 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
lkwan78

I just checked at the apple edu store. And so far there is no edu pricing for teachers..

I'll call them in the morning!

If someone sees a change please let others know!

April 25 2010 at 11:30 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
jsiegl

Unfortunately for schools, the virtual math manipulatives are java applets, and almost all of the k12 textbook vendor's online versions are written in Flash, as are a majority of the content that used in our district.

Also try asking the Apple education sales representative for your district to solve this word problem..

"If a school district buys 10 iPads, how many copies of Pages (or any other app) do they (legally) need to buy?"

Hint, it is a trick question, I've asked, their answer is that it is a consumer agreement that does not apply to schools.

April 25 2010 at 10:44 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Matt

A $50 discount is actually pretty good considering its the same discount for their desktop computers that cost anywhere from $600-$1200 and is better than employee discounts. One of the representatives from the school actually came into my Best Buy and bought ten of the iPads. They had pre-ordered 50 from apple but were apparently antsy so they came down and bought some more.

April 25 2010 at 10:26 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
SophT

An English teacher really needs an iPad to teach AP High School students how to spell? If that's the case then the whole system has failed at this point. Get a damn dictionary, they're widely available, and even have archaic, Shakespearean words. Methinks the English teacher was just throwing out reasons in an effort to secure an iPad for himself.

April 25 2010 at 8:35 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Charli

it is highly likely that these students are using the ipads only in class or on a loaner program. And any kind of hacking would be prohibited to the point of expulsion. Even restoring them is likely a huge no-no. Just like schools do with loaner laptops.

April 25 2010 at 7:55 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Josh

I wish the High School I am going into would allow these. Our school is stuck in the 18th century and has 21st century rules that clearly state "No Electronics". :(

April 25 2010 at 6:09 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Alejandro Betancur

I think it is for the teachers.. Apps like Quick Graph, help us with the graphic part of the math classes, you only need to focus on the math and not on try to draw ok.

http://itunes.com/apps/quickgraph

April 25 2010 at 6:01 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Rego

A relatively few geekizoids will jailbreak their iPads. A few nuts will put them in blenders and do other things to their iPads. Most people will use them the way they are and enjoy the ever increasing apps for all kinds of things; and be happy that their is a walled garden. The walled garden is a plus for most buyers.

April 25 2010 at 5:38 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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