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Hulu on the iPad? Think app, not portal

Watching TV on the iPad is a pleasure. More and more providers are coming on board, too, like ABC and CBS. Many of us are eager for a mobile solution from Hulu. Back in January, Hulu CEO Jason Kilar told Gigaom, "We will embrace any device...We are very big believers in mobile and we don't think about (just) one device only."

Then in April, The New York Times reported that a Hulu app was in development without giving any details.

This week, Eugene Wei, vice president of product at Hulu, discussed HTML 5 on the company's blog in an aside to the introduction of Hulu's new UI. The short version of his message is that Hulu can't implement it for now. "[HTML 5] doesn't yet meet all of our customers' needs," Wei writes.

He goes on to note that the Hulu player does more than just stream video; it must also report statistics to advertisers, secure the company's content, communicate buffer information and more -- tasks that Flash is simply better at performing. At least for now. "Not all video sites have these needs," he adds, "but for our business these are all important and often contractual requirements."

Compare these statements with the rumors of a forthcoming solution for the iPad and we can assume that an app much like the ABC player is likely. The ABC player, which I love, streams ad-supported episodes of the network's daytime and prime time shows for free. Rumors suggest that Hulu will introduce a paid subscription with their app; some suggest that it will run customers between 9 and 10 dollars a month. Good luck with that, Hulu.

TV on the ultra-portable iPad is one of its selling points. I'm so accustomed to seeing ads interspersed with programming that I don't mind it on my mobile devices. But asking me to pay for something I've already paid for (cable bill) is silly. Here's hoping Hulu reconsiders.

[via Business Insider, H/T to Switched]


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Mikko

This is same thing as it was with Spotify. Apple won't accept the app unless it is subscription based service. This is how Apple makes sure iTunes can compete with it. We won't see free Hulu on Apple's mobile devices and it's not because Hulu doesn't want it.

May 16 2010 at 5:07 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
SteveJ

All I have to say is that if they are still going to put advertising in the video feeds then they better not charge anything for the service. That are already being paid every time I watch that advertisement weather I buy anything or not. Since they are already making money I see no reason to give thin more. If the promise zero ads the they can through in a subscription fee in which case they should offer both and let the customer decide how much they hate watching short advertisements.

May 14 2010 at 10:03 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
kolizz

As said, if Hulu were to allow access to a backlog for the paying subscribers, I think there would be a lot of value in it. Also, allowing only said subscribers to access Hulu from an iPad is not very different from what Spotify is doing here in Europe where only premium (paying) subscribers get to use their iPhone app. I haven't seen any numbers, but I feel that model is a very fair one; go free with ads on a limited number of platforms or pay a subscription to get rid of ads and access from a larger number of platforms.

And if the problem is that you would be paying for the same content twice, why not just cancel your cable and use online services instead? It's pretty much how do it, except for american shows which I CANNOT, even though I want to, pay for (seriously, we get everything waaay after they air originally, in poor quality and they aren't ever available from ANY online service).

May 14 2010 at 8:14 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
tony.boicourt

I personally won't pay for a subscription to Hulu unless they have just about every episode of any show I want to watch...if that is the case, I will just stop paying for Netflix (they just don't have enough shows on instant stream)

To Hulu: I would much rather pay 30 dollars for your app up front and not have to pay a subscription (I Know this won't happen)

May 14 2010 at 4:25 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
CraigO

I just wrote about this in a similar topic but I was mentioning the new CBS site and how if this trend continues, there won't be a need for a Hulu app (Comedy Central has already left Hulu. Who's next?)

But you do bring up a good point about having a dedicated app. They could do all the same things they do with Flash with Objective C. Apple may be on to something. I saw Flash running on "Froyo" and while, yes, it does work, it did not look fun/easy/enjoyable. Ol Steve may not end up sounding so crazy in the long run.

May 14 2010 at 3:35 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Bob Bulkeley

And that is the real reason this model might work. By having something extra then the service currently provides (entire series vs. just the last five episodes). That may be enough to make the payment service compelling, though I notice my Hulu habit is to use it to catch up with the episodes I missed, and that is usually no more then two weeks worth.

I may consider it, but they need to widen their catalogue by a lot for me to want to fork out a monthly fee. This applies to series that they already have (like Chuck or Lost), and adding series that they don't have (like maybe the entire series of the different incarnations of Star Trek. Even CBS only lets you watch the Original Series for free online).

We'll just have to wait and see if they up the content enough to make it a compelling pay service.

May 14 2010 at 3:12 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
David Robison

We dumped our cable TV sub years ago and never looked back. And now the Web offerings make it even more obsolete.

I'm happy with Netflix, Hulu (Desktop) and ABC's player (despite occasional glitches). I think Hulu should stick to the existing ad-supported model on the iPad.

May 14 2010 at 3:01 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
david watson

I've paid for cable, Uverse and/or Dish for the last 15-20 years, does that mean I should get ALL TV free? Regardless if I've been Tivo-ing it or not?

On-demand TV through Hulu is a convenience and we should pay for that.

They've been getting us used to the format AND giving us the last 5 eps for free.

Great.

I want Hulu to develop an app so that I can take that convenience out into the world.

I should pay for that.

If you don't want to pay for Hulu, then stay home and watch your shows.

$9-10 per month is cheap for the convenience of on-demand TV. If the rumors are true, then a "backlog" of shows available for that price would be incredible. I don't want to watch commercials, but if I can watch the last 3 seasons of Chuck w/o buying the DVDs, I'm in!

May 14 2010 at 2:48 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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ilkyone

when you watch hulu, you watch advertising. If you are paying for the service, what are the advertisers paying for?

Hulu has been getting paid by advertisers, so don't think you are getting away without paying, and Hulu is just limping along giving you a loss leader. Hulu gets paid.

Cable companies get paid by the subscriber for a numebr of reasons -- one, to pay for the infrastructure; two, to make cash; and, three, to buy programming. Some portion of your subscription is alotted to each network carried on the cable bill. For instance, maybe $2 of your monthly bill, or more, goes straight to ESPN.

That's the real scan of cable -- you pay, the advertisers pay, the local advertisers pay, everybody pays many times over. Not very efficient.

The bottom line is, don't think Hulu needs your money to get along. It's not out of some moral issue that Hulu deserves a subscription fee shoudl they decide to impose one on the iPad app. The question then becomes, why are they charging iPad users, but not web users?

Plus, Hulu doesn't offer live linear feeds of the networks, do they?

May 14 2010 at 4:55 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
david watson

I agree that Hulu needs to stay a free service for the last 5 episodes, regardless of platform, and I don't think that it'd be a good idea for them to start charging iPad owners for the exact same thing that computer users get for free.

However, if they decide to offer a back catalog of TV shows (ala Netflix, but decent) then I totally think it's worth it.

Talking about advertisers, I think that Hulu should have a "ratings" system that let's advertisers know what episodes are the most popular and charge accordingly... Not that they don't already.

Also, with 200+ channels, I can't believe that $2 would go towards 1 channel. I think it's a lot less. Cable, satellite, and Uverse all have operating expenses too. It's not like they're triple-dipping.

Hulu doesn't have many commercials and they're not "local" commercials. There is no local affiliate to offset some cost. Hulu pays for the rights, and advertisers do help, but if Hulu wants to grow, an optional subscription might be the key. Of course, it might not. It might get totally rejected. But I don't know, there seems to be a lot of pent up demand.

Some people say that "if I'm paying $10/month for Hulu, then I better not have commercials"

I'm okay with the little commercials they have now, but I wouldn't want 16-17 mins of commercials in an hour-long show.

No one said that Hulu *wasn't* going to start charging web users. I think whatever they do will be across the board, so if iPad pays, so will everyone else. Because, otherwise, people will just use the free "web" version.

May 14 2010 at 5:30 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Trax

Hulu 2010 - RIP

May 14 2010 at 2:35 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Doc Rock

I agree with @jasonq!

The Networks already get paid buy it's advertisers to cover all the cost of the shows they play. It is a pay for performance business as any business should be.

Truthfully they are not losing viewership they are gaining it with this on demand, location free service.

The Executive need to read some Seth Godin books or blogs.

May 14 2010 at 2:34 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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