Of Stevemails and stevedores: Talkcast tonight, live at 10 pm ET
You have to hand it to Gawker writer Ryan Tate; he wasn't timid about giving his new penpal a piece of his mind, salty language and all. Tate let loose with a full-throated defense of iPad pornography, overworked print publishers and the freedom to write once and run anywhere. Of course, in this particular case he was sending aggrieved notes to Steve Jobs -- and, most surprising, Steve chose to write back. Repeatedly. In the wee hours of the night.Steve's defense of Apple's approach toward Flash on iPhone/iPad and the choices Apple is making about the future of its platforms makes for good reading; Tate's decision to run the emails in a post is one I can only describe as "chutzpadik," although he notes that Steve must be aware that many of his casual one-liners are making news in short order.
[Side note, if Apple hasn't productized Steve's killer spam filter yet, they darn well should get started on that. Unless it's a rotating panel of interns -- that would be difficult to scale.]
All that to say, we're fortunate to have our special time together later tonight on the Talkcast to chat about Stevemails, MacBook rumors, MobileMe betas, Steam releases and more! Join us, won't you?
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You have to hand it to Gawker writer Ryan Tate; he wasn't timid about giving his new penpal a piece of his mind, salty language and all....
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Here was my reply to the Gawker post:
"For the sake of your company, please stop. Combine this with the criminal investigation and Gawker is going downhill fast. Is there no editor with half a brain that chooses what should be posted on your sites?
Ryan, you are so far removed from reality it's laughable. No one has to use an iPad. No one has to develop for iPad. In fact, developers don't even need to use the App store (there are supported, legal, non jailbreak methods to create rich apps, even porn - [www.yourappshop.com] )
There is plenty of freedom. Apple doesn't even hold a plurality if the mobile market. Consumers and developers have plenty of freedom.
So what exactly is your complaint here? Why did you berate Jobs in such a childish manner? After Gawker complained that Apple PR was cold to them, do you think your temper tantrum will help them out?"
Can someone please explain to me what this twit is trying to defend?
There is NO FLASH for any mobile device.
How can he see we need this when it doesn't exist on any other mobile device?
Shouldn't he also be having a go at Android, Google, Blackberry, Nokia, et al?
cjc
Yeah, I love the no flash argument. It just shows how uninformed yet loyal to the end that most commenters here are to Apple. In addition to real flash on a number of mobile devices, flash lite runs on like 200 more phones, etc.
May 17 2010 at 7:48 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplySo I was right then? There is NO FLASH 10 (equivalent to desktop flash) available for any smart phone. If you believe there is, then show it to me. I'm quite happen to be proven wrong.
There is only the pathetic flash lite which is still back in v7 days, and according to Adobe's website, Flash Lite 2.x doesn't not support flash video. Flash Lite 3.x they say supports some flash video.
I will list my point again, there is NO FLASH 10 or equivalent available on any smartphone (or dumb phone for that matter) available now. Please prove me wrong, but "flash lite" doesn't cut it.
And get off your high horse about "steve and his fanbois". I get my information from a lot more places than steve jobs.
I just wish idiots like Tate would stop with the crying "FREEDOM" BS and get real. Nobody puts a gun their heads to buy Apple stuff. Yeah it some nice shiny stuff that works consistently well, but it's not government-mandated, and if they bought into the whole hippy-fantasy of the 1984 commercial, well, more fool they. The devs are scrambling for the App Store because they stand an even chance for making a chunk of change in it. There's no other market of the same quality yet. So its where they choose to make their money. Adobe is hypocritical as hell and (if you will) no less duplicitous as Apple in their "open letters". It's all crap and it's all about the money. So let's be completely and brutally honest and stop crying "FREEDOM" and start screaming "MONEY". It would be refreshingly upfront.
May 16 2010 at 10:29 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyOh my yes, I'm totally into having every magazine and every TV network having to write their own iPad app, subject to Steve's morality filter, and written ONLY for the iPad, so when the Next Big Thing comes out, they'll really have to think about whether they want to commit those kinds of resources again, in THAT platform's chosen language.
Oh please. The money is with the hypocritical middle-class average consumer - you know that swell in the bell-curve that spend more money than any other group - including self-righteous bloggers and commenters. And if they tell Apple we don't want no titties and stuff in the App Store, then that's where Apple is going to go. It's all about the money. You want Apple to do something build average consumer consensus around it and it's yours. But leave morality out of this - Steve is just echoing the words of the consumers that are spending their money on his stuff. So what if the unwashed masses secretly drive the pron industry - who are you to judge them anyway? If they want to be secretive and furtive and hypocritical about it - who are you to make a fuss about their freedom to do that?
May 16 2010 at 10:36 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI think it's great what steve is doing. Straight talk. No b.s. Hope he keeps at it.
May 16 2010 at 9:43 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI gotta say, I'm with Steve on all of his points. I jailbreak my iPod, yes, but I totally agree with what he's saying. There's just some functionality that I want that the iPod doesn't have by default. I really don't want Flash on my iPod. It would be horrible. I'm with Steve, and Ryan is a loser. I love how Steve pwned him right there at the end. Very nice. :D
May 16 2010 at 9:07 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyMeh. I'm with Steve on this one.
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