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DOJ reportedly expands Apple probe

The New York Post is reporting this week that the US Department of Justice (DOJ) is expanding its investigation of Apple in regards to iTunes and changes to the beta iPhone OS 4 SDK.

As for iTunes, Apple is accused of allegedly threatening to withhold their typical promotional activities from labels who continued to offer exclusives to Amazon via their Daily Deals campaign.

Additionally, the DOJ and Federal Trade Commission (FTC) are negotiating which of them will launch an inquiry into a clause in the iPhone OS 4 SDK that bans the porting of software originally written for Adobe's Flash, Sun's Java or Microsoft's Silverlight/Mono to the iPhone OS.

The Post cites "one Hollywood industry source" in their article, so you're free to guess who that might be. In the meantime, we'll follow this story as it develops. Here's hoping justice -- and not sour grapes -- is served.

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Rego

Since, as others point out, no credible news source has verified the story this seems like garbage from the NY crap post!

Is someone trying to manipulate Apple stock?

June 03 2010 at 3:36 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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Charli

Well if they are it's not working. It's up to like $265

June 03 2010 at 11:15 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Rego

Apple was trading down most of today while other tech stocks seemed to be up.

It closed at $263.12 a little below yesterday's close.

Usually if tech stocks are trading up Apple shows a significant increase and is often the leader of the pack.

June 04 2010 at 12:10 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Le Big Mac

Wrong agency's logo . . . again.

See the words around the circle that say "Federal Trade Commission"? Guess what--that doesn't say "Department of Justice Antitrust Division."

June 03 2010 at 1:50 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Joseph

"The Post cites "one Hollywood industry source" in their article, so you're free to guess who that might be."

Uwe Boll, of course!

June 03 2010 at 11:17 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
JKT

I see both sides of this. Apple did threaten (and possibly follow through on) anti-competitive behavior. But they only did so in response to anti-competitive behavior! A classic case of the person who punches first being ignored but the one who retaliates getting the penalty. Why is the DOJ not investigating the music labels and/or Amazon for getting sweetheart deals that nobody else can get??

June 03 2010 at 10:56 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
weatherproof

The iPhoneOS 4 SDK doesn't ban porting your software to other platforms at all. It prevents lazy developers from using cross-platform toolkits that hurt the user experience delivered on iPhoneOS. Apple puts a lot of effort into encouraging developers to deliver intuitive and useful applications. They do this by providing devs with extensive iPhoneOS-specific documentation on how and where to use specific UI controls as well as how they should behave both behind the scenes and to the user. This advice can be found in the iPhoneOS 4 class documentation, guides, as well as the iPhoneOS/iPad HIG document. When you use a cross-platform toolkit, you are ignoring much of this advise and likely violating the HIG, which in and of itself is a reason for your app to be rejected from the AppStore.

You can port your app to any platform you want, but you need to do it the proper way and write native versions for each platform (or at least the iPhoneOS). The argument that requiring developers to write native code is somehow akin to banning them from porting that code to other platforms is ludicrous. You pick and choose the platforms you wish to support given your finite business resources. It's always been that way for any software product. Apple is simply trying to hold independent 3rd party software for the iPhoneOS platform up to a higher standard. There is a reason why 3rd party software (often by small, independent developers) on OS X is generally of much higher quality than 3rd party Windows equivalents.

June 03 2010 at 10:45 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
epoca77

bout time...Apple has been riding a wave of supremacy and needs to be knocked down a few pegs. Had microsoft enacted the same business practices all you apple fanboys would be up in arms.

June 03 2010 at 9:54 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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SIP

@epoca77: "Apple has been riding a wave of supremacy"

on a 10% or less of market-share for most of its product line

June 03 2010 at 10:44 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
macserv

Exactly. Apple doesn't have anything close to monopoly power in this case. I, for one, certainly don't approve of my tax dollars being utterly wasted on this nonsense.

June 04 2010 at 2:06 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Dale

While there's no smoke without fire, and I'm sure Apple are worthy of the DOJ's attention in some respect, I can't help but think there are much bigger fish to fry. Apple won't play nice with labels who favour their competitors? Wha fucking wha, how about Goldman Sachs mysteriously ditching millions of shares in a company right before their value is wiped out? How about BP and the Gulf oil crisis?

Priorities, people, seriously.

June 03 2010 at 9:51 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Rizulli

I don't know about the iTunes/Amazon thing but as far as having to create apps with the SDK, it's Apple's device they can make you code apps anyway they want you to. It's purely to ensure compatability anyway.

June 03 2010 at 9:50 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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Charli

Some are saying that Apple is in the right because Amazon was getting better treatment than all other stores (brick and mortar included) by the labels that actually set up the whole street date thing in the first place.

Others are questioning of Amazon used their strength as an online market to get that advantage, which could be deemed anti-trust

And a few love the idea that this could force Sony etc to develop one common language for their games so you can use it on the PSP, XBox etc without buying new copies.

June 03 2010 at 11:49 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
kripo

Is there any other sources besides the New York Post? Anyone with some credibility, like Huggy Bear, for instance.

June 03 2010 at 9:41 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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Charli

That is my question. the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal etc don't have sources within the DOJ to find out about this. Only the Post.

Frankly I call the whole thing into question. It reeks of hit fodder

June 03 2010 at 11:46 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Tom

If they rule against Apple on the SDK clause, that has huge knock on ramifications to other companies. Sony, Nintendo, Microsoft, Google ( Android)...

You'd think they'd have to look at Amazon's practises regarding books, to put Apple's movements in context (and if looking at music, look at the music label company cartel to put Apple's moves in context).

June 03 2010 at 7:56 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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