Verizon iPhone, stop us if you've heard this before
Hey remember when AT&T's awkward CEO (then Cingular CEO) joined Steve Jobs in 2007 at Macworld with his awesome notecards and stilted announcement of exclusivity for the iPhone? Yeah, that and thousands of dropped calls later should have been a big, red warning to you conspiracy theorists that some day the iPhone would free itself from the big blue clutches of AT&T. Of course it'll happen, it's always been a matter of when. And every site in the tech universe yet again buzzes with the name Verizon this weekend as various tea leaves have been read to suggest January as a date. Maybe. Pencil it in, among the dozens of other rumored days/years/epochs, so you can start queueing up for something that hasn't even been announced.
Except, not really. TechCrunch makes a rather uneducated guess as to a January launch -- except that it'd be months before the usual summer announcement that hovers over WWDC these past few years. That and Apple doesn't attend Macworld any more (insert world's biggest eye roll here). Their guess is based on a big rumored order of CDMA chips -- although commenters point out this could be for a Chinese carrier. Engadget has a more nebulous date of "maybe someday" given the Q2 earnings report from AT&T which vaguely states that they'll still be making money once "these exclusivity arrangements end." I don't know how many exclusive phones AT&T has (all are highly death-grippable, I'm sure), but let's think of at least one runaway hit that could potentially ding their bottom line and dream, shall we?
Personally I'm not betting anything until Verizon rolls out their LTE network quite a bit. iPhone on T-Mobile makes more sense at this point. Why? Currently on Verizon's 3G network you can't have a phone conversation and use data at the same time. No way is Apple going to downgrade the functionality of their phone just for the sake of "more" customers. In case you haven't followed the company for 20 years, here's the deal: they care more about making customers happy than getting more customers. This "secret sauce" that companies like Microsoft, Sony and Dell can't fathom will play out in this cellular phone market as well. Once Verizon provides a better experience than AT&T, we'll certainly see a Verizon iPhone. Unless Verizon insists on the bloaty crapware and big honkin' V they put on all their phones -- that could further delay such a deal.
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I have been personally told by a friend who is a genius at apple that there will definitely be a verizon iPhone...but it will not be in january
August 10 2010 at 11:23 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI use simultaneous voice & data on my Blackberry (which is rapidly declining now that I'm at the end of my att contract - conspiracy theorists jump in), but it's not a dealbreaker if I can't. I want iPhone on Verizon for two reasons, and two reasons only.
1. I want an iPhone. Period. Lust conquers sense.
2. I want to be able to use a phone in places I like to go for those nice long weekend getaways where EVERYBODY else (even T-Mobile) has reception except for me. Verizon is the only one that has consistently had coverage no matter where we go, and that's all I need.
Besides, I'm an ex-Verizon customer who switched to att years ago before the days of unlimited mobile-to-mobile between carriers. When it comes to how the big boys treat their customers, they all have pretty much a ho-hum attitude once they have you locked in for two years.
"No way is Apple going to downgrade the functionality of their phone just for the sake of "more" customers. In case you haven't followed the company for 20 years, here's the deal: they care more about making customers happy than getting more customers."
Actually, Apple has been going in the exact opposite direction as this statement would indicate. They have been quite rapidly chasing the mass-consumer market with every hardware and software product they create, and yes plenty of compromises have been made along the way. Final Cut Pro is now a lost cause, no Blu Ray support, no Flash on iDevices (even as an option), totally locked down iOS etc.
I love me some Apple products, own just about everything they've made in the past ten years except an Apple TV. But there is no point in pretending that they don't compromise features or functionality in return for higher sales.
How big of a CDMA chip order area we talking? Like, big enough for the 1000 Chinese people who actually have the money for an iPhone? Or big enough for all the whiny preteens with iPod touches stuck under the parental shelter of Big Red?
August 09 2010 at 1:31 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyBeing in partnership with AT&T has caused severe disrepute for Apple in US. I have iPhone in Canada, but if I was in US I would not have gotten it simply because of AT&T. BTW, I do travel often to US to know which network is better.
August 09 2010 at 8:33 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Reply"partnership with AT&T has caused severe disrepute for Apple"
All I can say is: "herp derp." AT&T is the LEAST favored out of the big 4 carriers in the U.S., even if their network is the fastest. They're the only one with NO unlimited data plans, their SMS plans are outlandish, their customer service is pitiful compared to T-Mobile...and who could forget the famous iPad data plan bait-and-switch? (I can't help but wonder if Apple were in on that...change the whole pricing structure less than a month after the device that ADVERTISED its pricing structures was released??)
iPhone on ANY other carrier would FORCE AT&T to rethink their business strategy. As long as they have the iPhone, people will use their service. If they lost the iPhone, or even just lost exclusivity, they would have to make some major changes to stay afloat.
So I can't talk on the phone and go on the internet at the same time? So what? I can't do that now because the network is so bad I can't make calls from my house. I will switch to Verizon in a heartbeat.
August 09 2010 at 1:07 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyHey there, I am one of the many customers that want a Verizon iPhone, don't really care that much about call and data at the same time, though I can see when it would come in handy. I currently have a Verizon Palm Pre Plus (closest, in my opinion, to the overall experience of an iPhone, but the free Mobile Hot Spot allows me to use the Verizon Network on my iPod touch). What I want to correct from this article is this 'Unless Verizon insists on the bloaty crapware and big honkin' V they put on all their phones -- that could further delay such a deal.' Guess what? No where to be found on my Palm Pre Plus. So can people stop saying this is a reason that would prevent Apple from going to Verizon? Please? I mean, I even have the Amazon MP3 store on there, not Verizon's music service. Oh, and I got my phone directly from Verizon, not a third party/reseller, and the ones in the store also don't have any signs of it.
August 08 2010 at 10:02 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyShawn, there is a verizon logo on the mirror of your phone when you slide it up.
but I get what you are saying, and I totally agree with every word.
I run the same setup plus an iPad.
::nods head to fellow 21st century digital baller::
And as that evidence points out, America is the most important consumer of the iPhone I'm the world. And I hope I'm dead before that changes.
On a side note I also want to be dead before peak oil is reached and reported.
It's funny considering that with the launch of the iPhone 4 here in Hong Kong, they've added a third (well, in practice two) mobile carrier that carried the iPhone. 3 was the "exclusive" carrier in 2008 for the 3G, Smartone-Vodafone was added in 2009 with the 3GS launch and this year two differing carriers (One2Free and 1010) both run by CSL have joined.
I guess it helps that HK is predominantly a GSM coverage area, with only legacy "cheaper" networks running on CDMA/TDMA. 3G and so-called 3.5G coverage is also very extensively developed... and unlimited data contracts are still the norm.
I know TUAW is predominantly US-centric, but maybe some coverage of how the iPhone 4 is doing in other countries like the UK and Australia would be nice for comparison? I love my iPhone4 and do have some issues with the battery (I guess I'm used to a Nokia that lasts a full 24 hours with heavy use), but I've got not problem with "antennagate" at all.
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