European Commission investigating Apple's stance on Flash
In June, the US Federal Trade Commission (FTC) began an investigation into Apple's decision to ban developers from using Adobe's Flash-to-iPhone compiler and similar tools to create apps for iOS devices. Apple has also banned Adobe Flash from iOS devices, throwing its full support behind HTML5 as a much more efficient and stable alternative.
The New York Post reported today that the FTC isn't the only governmental authority looking into Apple's Flash ban. Now the European Commission has joined the FTC probe based on concerns that Apple's business practices harm competition. Apple's viewpoint is that the ban is well within its rights, and is necessary to maintain the high level of quality in iOS applications.
The investigation is expected to last another four to six months. In the meantime, Flash is appearing (in an unofficial and not fully functional way) on jailbroken iPhone 4s with the release of Frash earlier this week.
[via MacRumors]
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Frash was released on github a wile ago. Unofficial debs started floating soon after. So last week another unofficial deb was made. The article had it wrong just waned to point that out.....
August 11 2010 at 11:44 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyAs a basic rule I am anti-Flash but this is based on the fact that I also own a Mac as my primary computer and therefore am fully cognisant of the fact that Flash is bloody awful on the Mac platform. However, I have nothing against Flash being available on the iOS devices IF (and this is a whopper "if") the FCC or EC can force Adobe to produce a version of the Flash Player for iOS that is actually good. If they force Apple to take Adobe's usual product then that will be the worst news since it means that web sites will no longer have the same level of incentive to make content accessible via other means.
August 11 2010 at 9:11 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyThe EC can't do anything of that sort, it took them ages before they could even agree on the Windows 7 browser ballot selection screen. MS even shipped Windows in Europe before the ballot was ready (which says a lot about "regulation" too)
Deciding *good* version of Flash might take several lifetimes.
Most video content, when it is not YouTube is now Adobe Flash. I also use financial websites that produce live graphs using Flash. My iPod Touch is hence useless to me. However good or bad Flash is, I am forbidden from seeing it on my iPod Touch. This all sounds very Microsoft to me and I am glad than it is being investigated. Until Apple give me free access to third party software like this I will NEVER buy an iPad, iPhone or iPod. I have been with Apple for 25 years and am quite disgusted.
August 11 2010 at 7:49 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI hope the European Commission also investigates why Rolls Royce, Ferrari, Mercedes, Jaguar, Bmw and others only allow components from certain manufacturers in their cars. Try and order a factory BMW with a Chevy engine or a Rolls with a Ford Focus dash. European restaurants won't buy food from just any source either! Where is the justice, equality and fairness in that?
If the European Commission doesn't get a clue soon Steve may just shutoff supply of Apple products to Europe and the Commission will have a mutiny on it's hands.
What right does the FTC or EC have to decide what a private company should do with their products?
August 10 2010 at 9:51 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyUmm I wonder if Nokia didn't pull in a few favours from the EC as well...
After all they spent some cash putting out all the Flash Lite rubbish and now the popular kid Apple comes along and says trash is best left buried after all.
My guess is Apple not wanting any foreign API's sneaking in there that could open up security issues. Lord knows Adobe products have had a hole or two over the years.
August 10 2010 at 8:45 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyWell, every comment above me missed the point. They are not investigating the lack of a Flash player on the iPhone, but of Apple not allowing the use of Adobe's Packager for iPhone. The thinking is that they are making it difficult for developers to create software that will work on multiple platforms and using their dominant position (in the App store business) to lock developers in.
I doubt anything will come of this though...
Just a pointer, Frash sucks really bad. I just took it off of my iPad, and my iPhone 4. Almost every time I tried to load something with flash my browser would crash. It was crashing even on the really simple stuff too, and I couldn't get any flash working properly. So I'm all for Apple still banning flash from their devices, unless Adobe can pull off a good version of flash for iPhone...
August 10 2010 at 7:38 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI'm so tired of this. If Apple wants to ban Adobe from it's devices, let it. It makes the software, If he doesn't wait it or the support to be included, So Be it. " Apples Business practices could harm competition". It's COMPETITION. Isn't that the point to pull customers to your products and services. If Apple can get other companies customers, Bravo, But other companies shouldn't expect Apple to settle to make things easy for everyone else. If you don't like it, Step up your products.
August 10 2010 at 6:59 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyThis is really ridiculous. If Adobe wins, it will pretty slow down [or worse yet halt] the development and push of HTML5. IMO HTML5 is fine for things and there aren't many websites I browse in Flash anyways.
I remember a YouTube user arguing at me about Apple being an idiot for not supporting Flash because she couldn't browse her favorite fashion web sites. O_O ? Seriously? You wanna pursue your shopping experience on an iphone or ipad? There's something better! It's called an actual computer.
And I've installed Frash before the repo.benm.at source addition to Cydia when I read about it on Engadget. Believe me, I uninstalled it quickfast. Games don't work because Flash games are designed around a mouse and keyboard. Also, ads were popping up everywhere. Ads.
For a long while of browsing websites with the iPad, it was a nice experience seeing just the content I wanted. Some content (flash) weren't available, but HTML5 versions of the sites I browse were quickly available and besides, most of the content I look for is text (e.g., forum posts, articles, messages). I am not huge on video and I could care less if the video on YouTube wasn't available on the iPad [yet]. But with Frash installed, I realized why I enjoy surfing on the iPad more than on the MBP - I didn't have to go through all the baloney that is Flash ads popping up and clicking the X corner to close.
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