Xmarks calls it quits
I've been a big fan of Xmarks for a while now -- I work on a few Macs and PCs regularly, and while MobileMe is nice, I've always appreciated Xmarks' ease of use (after a one-time setup, it basically worked automatically) and compatibility across whatever browsers I happened to use. That's why I was disappointed to hear yesterday that they're calling it quits. Around 90 days from now, the servers will shut down, and Xmarks will be no more.Co-founder Todd Agulnick goes through the story of the service on that blog post. It was originally developed as Foxmarks, and it was designed to work directly with the Firefox browser to sync bookmarks there. Eventually, they brought in large numbers of users with tons of bookmarks in their browsers, but the company struggled to try and find a way to make money off of those numbers. Search became a main target, and if you're an Xmarks user, you'll know the 'tags" that would appear on Google Search pages in the browsers.
But despite initial interest, that never took off, and after unsuccessfully finding a buyer for the company this past spring, Agulnick says the end has come. Fortunately, there are bookmark syncing alternatives, and most of the browsers these days have options built-in (which is why Xmarks won't move to a subscription service -- hard to sell something most browsers are offering for free). But I'll pour some out for Xmarks -- it was an excellent service. I'm just sorry it couldn't find a profitable place to settle down.
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Source: http://blog.xmarks.com/?p=1886
I've been a big fan of Xmarks for a while now -- I work on a few Macs and PCs regularly, and while MobileMe is nice, I've always...
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I have tried the BYOS and it works for Xmarks Firefox, too bad there's no BYOS feature in Xmark Safari!!!!!
October 02 2010 at 10:35 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI discovered this link below about syncing Safari bookmarks to Dropbox. There seems to be a Firefox version too. This doesn't sync between different kinds of browsers, but as for that maybe there's an add-on or extension for that if you need it.
http://wiki.dropbox.com/TipsAndTricks/SyncSafariBookmarks
http://wiki.dropbox.com/TipsAndTricks/SyncFirefoxBookmarks
You don't 'ask' your userbase if they would pay, you just 'go paid'.
My answer to anyone who asked 'would you pay for x' would of course be 'no' - because it is in my best interest to force the company to find a free model.
However, if XMarks went paid, *I* would be forced into making that decision, and I probably would have.
Not actually *trying* a paid model is beyond lazy - and irresponsible to the employees, investors, and users of XMarks.
You already have a mature userbase and service in place - slapping PayPal, Amazon Payments, Google Checkout, or even a merchant credit card account onto that is not exactly rocket science.
its the *least* a responsible company would do.
In retrospect, I really don't think XMarks users are going to be left in the lurch in January.
I actually think a pennies-on-the-dollar or gratis trustee will acquire the service, and that XMark's advertising of shutdown now is a shout out to whomever might consider that to step up now.
Google Bookmarks should absolutely go crossplatform and acquire XMarks.
The browser vendors need to get on the ball and implement a universal bookmark format and browser-agnostic syncing system ASAP. I mean, really -- after twenty years of browser coexistence, we still have no vendor-supported solution for this? It's frankly ridiculous.
For the nonce, perhaps we should turn our backs on browser bookmarks and rely solely on cloud-based bookmarks. Pinboard is perhaps the best such web service. It's not free like Delicious, but it is independent and cheap enough (less than $7 for a lifetime subscription). It has an iPhone-optimized page. There's at least one Safari extension that lets you search and open your Pinboard bookmarks without having use their website; perhaps extensions for other browsers will come.
It seems like the browser vendors have been trying to wean us off browser-based bookmarks for a long time. That's how I interpret their lackadaisical support for them. Perhaps we should take the hint?
Make xmarks open source
Please write to them here: http://getsatisfaction.com/foxmarks/topics/open_source_byos?utm_medium=widget&utm_source=widget_foxmarks
i like chrome's own sync, but I've been using xmarks for about 3 years now to sync all of my browsers. It especially hurts because I can't sync iphone bookmarks to chrome. I'd been using xmarks to sync between chrome and safari so I could sync to my iphone. Also I paid for the xmarks iphone app a while back...guess that was a waste.
September 29 2010 at 9:05 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyNo way - I would gladly pay and yearly subscription of $20 (per year) to keep this service going...
September 29 2010 at 5:27 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyThis is a shame. It's great software. I'm surprised they don't foresee enough users with a pricing model that would be worthwhile.
September 29 2010 at 4:25 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI was very sad to read this email. I've recommended it, loved it, slept with it.... Ok j/k about that last part.
Xmarks was always a peice of software I respected an loved cuz it just worked so damn well and effortlessly. They should give you an option to host the sync file on Dropbox or sugarsync. That ought to drop their expenses an order of magnitude.
Yep... I would pay for this service. It actually saved me today... I couldn't get into Mac OS X and it thankfully remembered my Firefox history in Windows 7 so that I could find out what commands I erroneously used in Mac OS X to back track. Priceless!
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