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T-Mobile HTC Slide to provide non-FaceTime video chat with iPhone 4

FaceTime is one of the most visible features of the iPhone 4, with much of the advertising for the newest iPhone showing off the emotionally-rich video chat capabilities that FaceTime provides. But if your friends are on another network or don't have an iPhone 4, it's impossible to use your phone to video chat with them.

Yahoo! and T-Mobile would like to change that. T-Mo announced earlier in the week that an upcoming Android phone, the HTC Slide, will come with two cameras arrayed much in the same manner as those on the iPhone. The Slide will also provide video chatting with any other phone equipped with two cameras, including the iPhone 4.

Since FaceTime is an Apple-specific feature, how is T-Mobile going to do this? Through Yahoo! Messenger. The current iOS app doesn't appear to currently support video chats, but Yahoo!'s admission that the capability would be available for the iPhone 4 indicates that an upcoming version will take advantage of the built-in cameras.

Yahoo! Messenger will not only provide video chatting with other mobile devices, but it should also make it possible to share some "face time" with Yahoo! Messenger users on Macs and PCs as well. It's expected that the HTC Slide from T-Mobile will be available prior to Christmas, hopefully bringing the new versions of Yahoo! Messenger for iOS and Mac OS X that will make possible video chatting for the holidays.

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Louie

Looks like they're getting ready:

Updated: Oct 27, 2010
What's New in Version 2.0.1
- Enabled video calling on iPod touch (4th generation).

November 11 2010 at 12:23 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
RF9

Intall the app: Tango
Free video calls over wifi or 3G.
The have an iPhone and Android app. Just last night I did an iPhone to android call. Super simple.
I don't understand why Tango hasn't caught on. It's the perfect replacement for face time.

October 08 2010 at 12:23 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Austin

Apple really needs to open up the FaceTime protocol. Like oz_paulb said, it may be using open standards but no official API has been release to developers making it next to impossible for 3rd party developers. If Apple does not standardize video chat on mobile devices, it will never happen. No one wants to install Tango / Fring / Skype depending on what service their contact has. It should be as simple a dialing someone's number. Until then, I don't think FaceTime or any video chat will reach its full potential. I, for one, have only FaceTime'd a few people, as most of my friends / contacts don't have an iPhone 4. However, most of them do have phones capable of such technology. It's just a matter of standardization. Please Apple. Don't get greedy and turn this into another "Made for iPod" licensing scheme.

October 07 2010 at 6:04 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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daven.s

"It should be as simple a dialing someone's number."

Industry standard video calling is! Why should Apple try to re-invent the wheel when the technology and protocols are already well established. 3G video calling has been around since at least 2006.

As for your comment that it will never become standard unless Apple make it so is just preposterous. How about Apple conform to the widely accepted, multi-platform standards already in place.

October 08 2010 at 7:19 AM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
daven.s

I don't get what all the fuss is about, or why we need to devise another method of video calling another phone, by another manufacturer, on another network.

Years ago when 3G rolled out in the UK one of the big features was video calling. I used to use it on my Nokia N80 on o2 to call my mate on 3. Not often, but the functionality and protocols are already in place and have been for years, and there's no reason why the iPhone 4 can't support them.

Then again, video calling is a bit of a niche feature. It's all good fun when you first get it but few people actually use it on a regular basis.

October 07 2010 at 5:51 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Ron

I have often wondered why its taking these developers so long to tap into FaceTime and incorporate into messenger/calling apps. I mean Fring and iChatr incorporated it into there app, so don't see the hold up. I would love for Skype, Y Mesenger, ebuddy, etc to get FaceTime in their apps

October 07 2010 at 4:40 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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oz_paulb

I don't believe Fring/iChatr/whatever have "FaceTime" (the Apple protocol) built-in. They have their own custom video chat, which may be inferior (Fring certainly doesn't come anywhere close to FaceTime quality (WiFi, of course)).

Apple has announced that they will be 'opening up' the FaceTime technology for others, but I have seen no evidence of this yet. Yes, FaceTime is built on standard technologies (SIP/H.264/etc), but one big issue is the 'directory' server mechanism - how do you write an app that can call an iPhone FaceTime user (which is registered with an Apple server that doesn't appear to be 'opened-up' yet)?

Even if you make an app that supports all of the FaceTime protocols, until you can contact a FaceTime device from Apple, it's not really "FaceTime".

IMO.

October 07 2010 at 5:04 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Vito

Are you referring to the new MyTouch - it has a front facing camera - I don't know of any "HTC Slide" announced by T-Mobile. I think this story was cut and pasted from another (inaccurate) source...

October 07 2010 at 4:36 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Safe travels

your post made no sense and the spam isn't appreciated.

more on topic, why call it facetime? facetime is the extra functionality that is built into the phone app. if another app is using the front camera for video calling it's just that, video calling or conferencing. if you have a web cam chat on your laptop, you don't call that facetime, do you?

in any case, I'm just waiting for skype or nimbuzz (my im client of choice) to implement video support, not sure what's taking them so long...

October 07 2010 at 4:35 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Maenxe

Did I miss something? T-Mobile announced the new MyTouch, not a Slide device on Monday.

October 07 2010 at 4:35 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
tricon

Apple's opening the FaceTime protocol. Other phones and services could implement it, and it would be better if they do as it wouldn't require users to be signed into a chat service.

October 07 2010 at 4:34 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
Wry Cooter

FaceTime is really not intended to be an Apple Specific feature. It is based on open web standards, that anyone could tap into, including existing IM and video message platforms.

What would be best would be if Yahoo Messenger merely adapted these standards, and they could talk across the chat platforms to Facetime, which already has a somewhat installed base. What will probably happen (and what this blog post does not address) is that You will need a Yahoo Messenger App to talk to other Yahoo messenger apps, and it will be the same silo of near incompatibility that has haunted Instant Messaging and such for decades.

October 07 2010 at 4:24 PM Report abuse rate up rate down Reply
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