Intel and Apple to launch Light Peak as Thunderbolt in the MacBook Pro

According to CNET, Intel is holding a press event on Thursday to launch its Light Peak technology. Light Peak is a high-speed connection technology that lets a single interface replace the SCSI, SATA, USB, FireWire and PCI Express ports on a computer. The technology was introduced in 2009 and, according to an Intel executive, is ready to make its commercial debut. The current iteration of Light Peak is based on copper, not optical technology, and is expected to provide 10 gigabits per second bi-directional data transfer.
Rumors from as far back as November 2010 suggest Apple may incorporate Light Peak into its 2011 MacBook Pro models. The press event in San Francisco seems to corroborate this rumor as the Intel invite reportedly states the briefing will "discuss a new technology that is about to appear on the market." Apple was rumored to be working closely with Intel on this Light Peak technology, and an early public demonstration of its capabilities was performed using a machine running Mac OS X.
Fsklog and Mac4Ever claim to have insider specs that suggest Light Peak will debut as Thunderbolt on the upcoming MacBook Pro notebooks. Combined, the two blogs purportedly have an image of the actual Light Peak port on a MacBook Pro (suspiciously looking like a mini-display port), an advertisement piece with the larger trackpad, a promotional logo for Thunderbolt and a spec sheet. Of course, all these images can be faked easily with Photoshop, and ThunderBolt is a trademark filed by Verizon for its upcoming LTE smartphone, so take this latter information with a grain of salt.
[Fsklog, Mac4Ever and Engadget]
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According to CNET, Intel is holding a press event on Thursday to launch its Light Peak technology. Light Peak is a high-speed...
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This could be very nice, but the big question will be how long it takes the accessory manufacturers to bring compatible products to market.
In the mean time I would much rather have an eSATA/USB combo port available to use 'legacy' devices. For reasons that are not abundantly clear, Apple have not adopted eSATA which offers vastly superior performance to that of Firewire 800. eSATA will remain useful for a very long time in my view.
It would seem feasible that the LightPeak port would be able to connect to "legacy" devices, albeit through some sort of multi-port hub.
February 23 2011 at 4:27 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyAm I the only one bothered by the fact that thunder is a sound and not a bolt? I'm sure the word "thunderbolt" is used by high school sports teams (and was used by a now-defunct XFL team from Birmingham, AL) but it's stupid. Thunder makes a clap and lightning makes a bolt.
February 23 2011 at 12:33 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyYou can be mr (or ms) literal. Me, I liken it to these before sports teams....
http://www.google.com/images?client=safari&rls=en&q=p47&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&sa=X&ei=o0xlTarZIIqCsQOZ2fC7BA&ved=0CE8QsAQ&biw=1320&bih=983
http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&q=thunderbolt+2&cp=13&safe=off&client=safari&rls=en&bav=on.1,or.&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&sa=X&ei=rUxlTbLINIuCsQPs3YDhBA&sqi=2&ved=0CDQQsAQ&biw=1320&bih=983
Yeah, you are the only one this bothers. I think that may be because "thunderbolt" is a well known English word (it's in the dictionary!) and also it doesn't mean what you think it means. It refers to both thunder and lightning together. You can't hear a lightning bolt or see a clap of thunder, but you can see and hear a thunder bolt.
February 23 2011 at 3:52 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyThis sort of fits in with comments I made in an earlier post.
Upgrading from Mini DisplayPort to something Light Peak-based allows them to push far more than just video over the connection. Adding Thunderbolt means they can roll out new external monitors that have FaceTime cameras, USB ports, and other things built-in, and you just need to plug in one cable to your MBP to serve all of that. Heck, they could even start doing fancier things; imagine they sell an external monitor with a discrete GPU built-in, and instead of pushing DisplayPort signal over Thunderbolt, they push PCI-E lanes to talk to the video card inside the monitor. When you're plugged in, you've got a bigger monitor AND faster graphics. Light Peak can do 10Gb/s, and 4x PCI-E is 8Gb/s, so even pushing a 4x PCI-E lane over it they could still have 2Gb/s left over, which is enough for a couple USB 2.0 lanes and a FireWire lane.
PCI-E is hot-pluggable, so it shouldn't be too hard to rejigger MacOS to support adding and removing PCI-E video devices like this; you'd need some kind of Nvidia Optimus-like video switching technology to support on-the-fly switching between the onboard and discrete graphics, but it's doable. In fact, since Light Peak can carry just about anything it's fed, it could possibly be switchable enough to either carry DisplayPort video from the onboard GPU (if your monitor is Thunderbolt-enabled but lacks a discrete GPU) or PCI-E (if your monitor is Thunderbolt-enabled and has a discrete GPU) depending on what's needed.
Apple's DisplayPort implementation already allows for multiple uses of a single DisplayPort connector; on the 27" iMac, you can use the single DisplayPort connector on the back as either an output (to add a second monitor) or an input (to receive a signal from another DisplayPort device, turning your iMac into an external monitor). DisplayPort is packet-based technology, and if it's flexible enough to at least do this, then I imagine they can make the port flexible enough to detect Thunderbolt and do bidirectional output as well.
Yay a new version of ADC, well kind of, hope this one gets off to a good start, and doesn't fizzle out after just a few years. I always liked the simplicity that the original cinema displays offered.
February 23 2011 at 10:24 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyThuderbolt is Light Peak's Indian name.
February 23 2011 at 10:22 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyBuilding this into the mini-display port makes sense: an external monitor is one of the most common things to plug into a laptop, and already has the infrastructure for power, housing USB/ethernet/whatever ports.
So in theory, they could have a new Cinema Display that cuts down the connectors to power and LightPeak, but provides more functionality than the current three-connector (power, USB, mini-display) setup.
You gotta agree, lightpeak is a better name than thunderbolt.
-shrug- no one thought much of the names wii or ipad either I suppose but we got over it.
we can only hope it is finally here, that and that they haven't dumbed it down, plugging in some esata or whatever will be a blessing.
I agree - "Light Peak" is a good name, "Thunderbolt" is just cheesy.
February 23 2011 at 10:09 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyKelly - the image on the blog listed in this article is just a mini DisplayPort with a lightning bolt 'shopped onto it.
February 23 2011 at 8:54 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyThe mini display port is a proprietary port apple developed. It actually makes sense that they would use it for Thunderbolt "light peak" especially if it is backwards compatible with existing display port displays.
February 23 2011 at 9:18 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyYeah it does look just like the mini-display which is why it may be photoshopped. But as Eric points out, Apple/Intel could be using the port for LightPeak as well. A pic of the prototype Light Peak connector (looks like USB) is floating around, but Intel has said that may not be the final design. We will have to wait and see when they MBPs finally come out.
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