Mobile Safari's privacy settings give web marketers headaches

Those who make their money by working out who sent you to visit which websites via what adverts are scratching their heads and popping the Advil over what to do about Mobile Safari, which automatically blocks third-party cookies by default.
This makes it difficult for ad servers, tracking systems and ad management tools to link visitors to ads that brought them to the website. This, in turn, makes it difficult to measure the performance of paid-search marketing campaigns.
MediaPost reports that search firm Marin Software published a white paper about Mobile Safari and ad tracking last week. The paper says that Mobile Safari on iOS devices is a "major challenge" and that, on average, advertisers using third-party cookie-based tracking systems are undercounting conversions by 38 percent -- the actual conversion rates for iOS, minus for the third-party cookie based undercounting, were on average 23 percent higher than on Windows.
With millions already using iOS devices and the iPad 2 and, later this year, a new iPhone bringing millions more into the Apple fold, this is becoming a big problem for ad companies.
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Online advertising is atrocious these days. Especially the part about the hidden malware that activates on its own. 90% of online ads look extremely sketchy, and Flash ads have to be the worst, because not only do they clutter your web browsing experience, they do it at the expense of your computer's CPU (and battery life, if you have a laptop). I'm really glad Apple disables 3rd-party cookies by default across Safari and MobileSafari. Until online advertisers realize that their ads suck, I won't be clicking on any of them (much less buying the advertised product). I've only clicked on ads that looked good, and 100% of the time, those ads took me to beautiful websites with really good products (meaning, they didn't advertise it for the hell of it, they advertised it because it was good).
March 20 2011 at 10:42 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Reply@signup: I turn off 3rd party cookies. I also run Firefox with the Adblock Plus and the Element Hiding Helper add-ons, so I don't see any of those ads (targeted or not) that you are defending.
March 19 2011 at 11:59 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI'm not so sure I care about this. I don't go online to look at ads, and a rarely click on them. I shop online a lot, but it's mostly a case of my going to look for something very specific, instead of being lured in by ads. I use an ad blocker extension in Safari anyway.
If ad companies are worried, maybe they shoudl rethink the way they do business. That's called innovation.
"I'm sure Apple will get right on that problem. We know that they don't care about consumer privacy one bit."
I guess that's why they set the default to not sharing the info. Duh.
Online advertisers are the scum of the earth! You want to know how much malware I remove from *gasp* Windows computers that were hit by a browser drive-by? That means the stupid advertisement had the malware embedded in it and it infected the user with some phony Anti-Virus program or Hard Drive diagnostic or some other hacker scheme to generate ad clicks on his own domains, etc. The users don't have to click the ad to get infected! And don't think it can't happen on a Mac! I had one in Safari popup a My Computer window and download an EXE over and over again. Of course, it won't run on a Mac, but the attack managed to auto-download a file to me and popup windows.
I don't like the way the entire online advertising business works, far too shady for me! The big guys are not the problem, it's when they outsource many levels out and some joker manages to slip some malware into the advertisers feeds! That malware then goes all over the place even on legit sites where it infects god knows how many people.
I don't like the way these tracking cookies work anyway, I applaud Apple for disabling 3rd party cookies by default!
I have not once, since the dawn of the public Internet ever, not ever, clicked an advertisement on a website! I find the whole concept offensive. You want your product noticed? Get the media, twitterverse, and blogosphere to talk about it, put your product on it's own website and give us the kind of detail we want. I'll find it and buy it if I want it! Stop ramming it down my throat by cluttering up my browsing experience. I filter ads by proxy, I block them at the browser, I blackhole the advertising domains in /dev/null.
I found out about something I didn't know about and will certainly buy immediately when it's ready. No advertisement alerted me to that product. It was an ArsTechnica article about Ten's Compliment and their upcoming X-410 storage (ZFS filesystem on a Mac). I immediately followed them on Twitter. That is the new way of things, that is how it's done. I should have been able to search Twitter for ZFS and would have found it.
Web advertising needs to go social and get away from the old way of marketing, course that screws up big sites who rely on ad click revenue.
Well ranted I say.
People bring in their infested windows boxes sometimes asking me to save them. I tell em to format and reinstall, they get all upset cause all they have is pirate ware. I'm like well I can't be assed unless you want me to charge you twice the hours it would take to maybe succeed in stripping out the array of nested malware.
"This makes it difficult for ad servers, tracking systems, and ad management tools to link visitors to ads that brought them to the Web site."
How can this be a bad thing?
Seriously. Cry me an f***ing river. Anyone with any sense turns off 3rd party cookies in whatever browser they use, and in the news today there's talk of making this kind of tracking illegal/heavily regulated, so they should get used to not having this information.
March 19 2011 at 7:25 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyIf the concern is tracking referrals from ads, are cookies even necessary? I thought that these things are reported to the server automatically when someone visits a site via a link.
March 19 2011 at 5:31 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyAAPL is investigating on charging 2 cents per cookie planted in his precious iThings and 1 cent per cookie harvested by an ad server.
March 19 2011 at 4:06 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyAds? Oh, you mean those things I never see because I use Firefox and AdBlock on my desktop?
Now that I think of it, I DO see those on Mobile Safari from time to time. I generally just zoom the screen and push them out of the margins.
People actually use Safari? I've never used it on any of my computers. And only used it temporarily till I found a replacement on the iPhone.
March 19 2011 at 2:36 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyThe only times I *don't* use Safari is when I use a certain IE-only Web App at work and to access sites that need Shockwave Flash; then I start up Chrome.
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