The unanswered questions about Jobs, Schmidt and iOS features
I'm in the midst of reading Steven Levy's book about Google, In the Plex, and I was fascinated with the account of Steve Jobs hiding the iPad's development from Google CEO Eric Schmidt while Schmidt was sitting on the Apple board. We noted this striking example of corporate confidentiality last week.
Jobs was reportedly angry with Google for allegedly ripping off iPhone features, like pinch to zoom that eventually wound up in the Android phone.
Eventually, Schmidt stepped down from his position on the Apple board, and the rest is history. Or maybe not.... Our former colleague Nilay Patel, ex of Engadget, says in his personal blog that the story can't be that simple. First, he says Apple didn't have a patent on pinch to zoom until October of 2010. The Android G1 shipped in October 2008, and it didn't have pinch to zoom, but it finally made it to the Google Nexus One in February 2010. Now all Android phones have the feature.
So, says Patel, some questions remain. Did Jobs see pinch to zoom in an early Android build when he visited Google headquarters? Levy says in his book that Jobs did. Did the feature get pulled after Jobs got angry? Levy says yes again. Yet here we are with Android phones with pinch to zoom and other multi-touch features. Other phones have the feature, too.
We can debate whether or not something many feel is basic is even valid to patent, but just last week the US Patent Office granted Apple more multi-touch-related patents. Meanwhile, Apple has a lawsuit pending against Motorola Android phones over multi-touch.
What really happened between Jobs and Schmidt may never be known, and these lawsuits will take a while to sort out. I love a mystery, and Levy's book is a great read if you're interested in Google and tech in general. And of course, I'm reading the book on my iPad.
[hat tip TiPB]
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I remember seeing quite a few demos of multitouch surfaces long before the iPhone was dreamed of and they employed pinch to zoom so I don't get how Apple can patent it when it was just plain already part of the multitouch paradigm.
April 15 2011 at 7:02 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyOk, I just did some digging and the main demo I thought of wasn't "long before the iPhone was dreamed of" but still was almost a year before the iPhone came out. Here's an article on the fact that Apple was beaten to the punch right when the iPhone was first announced http://www.macrumors.com/2007/01/21/iphone-pc-mag-review-fingerworks-and-jeff-han/
April 15 2011 at 7:17 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyIt's easy to crap all over Apple for claiming ownership of pinch-to-zoom, now that it seems obvious because it is on every phone. On the other hand, if it's so obvious, why was nobody doing it before the iPhone?
April 14 2011 at 5:23 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI always thought the pinch and zoom came from the guys at MIT as i remember their demo at TED a few years ago.
April 14 2011 at 4:41 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyMany magic tricks seem obvious when the secret is revealed. It's the same way with tech innovations. Things like pinch to zoom seem so obvious to us _now_.
April 14 2011 at 3:47 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyI thought that once a patent is granted, it is retroactive to the date upon which the patent was filed. If that's the case, then certainly Apple would now have a good case for patent infringement if they had a patent application in the works at the time when he spotted pinch-to-zoom at Google.
April 14 2011 at 3:35 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyApple is very careful about who they go after with these patents. What they want is a cross licensing deal, where all of these companies pay royalties for multi-touch. What they fear is having those patents challenged due to prior art (multi-touch itself is not an Apple-original concept), and have them thrown out all together.
April 14 2011 at 3:43 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyYeah, the date the patent was granted is kind of irrelevant to the point. If it was granted in 2010, then the application was probably made 2-3 years earlier at least. So while Jobs couldn't have claimed a patent at that time, he could still be cheesed that Google had (allegedly) stolen a tech in a pending patent application.
Of course, all of the actual patent issues (as opposed to corporate pissiness) can get resolved in some infringement suit.
iPhone had pinch-to-zoom since it was first publicly unveiled. If it was a Google invention, that means it was in development for at least 3 years before having a release product. Considering Apple was able to implement it in a timeframe several orders of magnitude less, I would say this is either extremely unlikely, or Google is filled with a bunch of incompetent devs. I'd be more inclined to go with the former.
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