Microsoft Doesn't Get It, Episode 65,536: TellMe versus Siri
As with all new technologies developed by or associated with Apple, competitors are stumbling over one another to dismiss Siri. Google has already played the "yawn" card, and now Microsoft's Craig Mundie has joined the fray during an interview with Forbes. Here are Mundie's remarks when asked about Siri, proving for the 65,536th time that Microsoft Doesn't Get It:
"TellMe facility's been in the Windows 7 Phone (sic) for more than a year! I just think that people are infatuated with Apple announcing it... it's good marketing. At least as a technological capability, you could argue that Microsoft has had a similar capability in Windows phones for more than a year. You could take these Windows phones and pick them up and say, 'Text Eric,' and it'll say, 'What do you want to say?' and it transcribes it... You can query anything through Bing by just saying the words. I mean, all that's already there. Completely functional, been there for a year."
Can you really just pick up one of these Windows phones and use it right out of the box in the way Mundie claims? Not if the results of a video comparing TellMe versus Siri are any indication. Using Siri and TellMe simultaneously, an Australian user tries to create a meeting, send a text, check the time in Perth, and play songs by a certain artist. Siri doesn't miss a beat, while TellMe fails every time, often with hilarious results.
Let's issue some apologetics for TellMe: maybe it's tripping over the Aussie accent. Maybe it needs to "learn" the speaker's voice over time to deliver better results. Maybe the handset's microphone wasn't picking up his voice well enough to decipher his commands accurately. But the side-by-side comparison doesn't lie; Siri kicked TellMe's butt up and down the block.
The comparison video even handicapped Siri by using the sort of stilted, standardized voice commands that Android and Windows Phone 7 have indeed "already had for over a year." But the thing that Siri's detractors must keep in mind is that Siri is not just speech recognition. In fact, if you're one of Apple's competitors, and you're going to try talking about Siri intelligently, I'd say the first step is writing "Siri is not just speech recognition" on a chalkboard 100 times.
Certainly Android and Windows Phone 7 have had basic speech recognition functions before Siri's debut, but can you have a conversation with those implementations, or do you have to stick to a strict set of commands that the OS can interpret? You're certainly going to have a hard time convincing me that I can have this sort of interaction with TellMe on Windows Phone 7:
"I'm in Chicago. I want pizza." (I'm actually over 13,000 kilometers from Chicago, but never mind that.)
"I found a number of pizza restaurants in Chicago, IL, US."
"How about New York City?"
"I found a number of pizza restaurants in New York City, NY, US."
"Maybe hamburgers in Miami instead."
"I found a number of burger restaurants in Miami, FL, US."
"How windy is it?"
"The wind speed is currently 26 kph (ENE) in Miami, FL, US."
"No, how windy is it here?"
"Wind speed is currently 21 kph."
"Is it shorts weather?"
"Here's the forecast for today through this Thursday."
What makes Siri a revolutionary voice-controlled interface is the fact that you don't have to stick to the standard "Search for pizza restaurants in Chicago" or "What is the current wind speed in Palmerston North, New Zealand" language that other interfaces require. Even more than that, Siri understands conversational context in a way that competing voice interfaces don't.
Fine, Android and Windows Phone 7 beat Siri to market by being able to ask your phone questions, but that's like the difference between issuing commands to your dog versus talking to a three-year-old human being. My greyhound is pretty much a canine genius, but once you stray from the hundred or so commands and concepts I've programmed into her doggy brain, she's every bit as lost as TellMe would be if I asked it "Is it shorts weather?"
Siri is far closer to being able to understand natural speech the way a human would; it's not quite there yet, but it's often amazing how close it gets. On my first day with the iPhone 4S, I set a half-hour timer and later asked Siri "How's that timer doing?" fully expecting it to choke. Instead, it showed me the timer immediately. I was startled that it worked at all, and worked well, and moments like this prove that Siri isn't the also-ran that people like Microsoft's Mundie are trying to claim it is.
Here's the funniest part: just like Multi-Touch, I suspect Apple's competitors are only being dismissive about Siri for as long as it takes for them to copy it... badly. Meanwhile, Siri and I will be over here waiting for you to catch up.
"Play some Led Zeppelin."
"Here's your Led Zeppelin."
And of all things, what plays? "Communication Breakdown." Siri, you so crazy.
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As with all new technologies developed by or associated with Apple, competitors are stumbling over one another to dismiss Siri. Google...
Disclaimers: I own almost every Apple product since the Powerbook Al 15, and use an iPhone (since the first one came out in 2007). I also worked at Tellme/Microsoft on the speech feature for Windows Phone 7 in it's first iteration, and like Windows Phone 7 as well. I haven't worked at MS in the last 18+ months.
First, Siri is awesome. Conversational interaction is pretty solid on the 4S. Second, Craig Mundie isn't entirely dismissing Siri as no big deal. He's just saying it's not a revolutionary idea, and is just an iteration over what's already out there. Is it the best at what it offers currently? YES. But it is just an evolutionary step (Linking with WolframAlpha for Natural Language searches, and adding more flows around built-in apps like reminders, clock, and calendar) from what others have already been offering on their platforms (MS already does conversational flow in the call/text scenario, and integrates well with local search. In fact better than Siri in some cases), and it's definitely not a big deal away from what they have been working towards. For instance... here's a vision video from Tellme/Microsoft on what they are working towards, posted months before Siri/iPhone4S was announced http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB6pWs46GY8
That said, Siri is definitely an improvement over current offerings. But the point Mundie makes is that Apple's marketing is just hammering that because the other features of iPhone aren't as "appealing." I'm an engineer, so I could care less about a modified outer shell. In fact I prefer the current clean design of the iPhone 4/4S to the teardrop design passed around the web with larger brick-sized screen. To me, dual core processing + 8MP processing are definitely improvements. But those alone are not enough to differentiate the 4S from what's already available on the iPhone 4. And the only thing that pushes me to get a 4S is the forced lockdown of Siri on the device, even though the 4 is more than capable of running it. So, Mundie isn't entirely wrong when he says that's all the iPhone 4S has got going for it. Siri is definitely a marketing win for Apple, and Microsoft could definitely learn a few things from Apple on that.
Mundie is definitely not dismissing Apple like Ballmer did when the iPhone was introduced. He's just showing his frustrations about how the Apple's marketing can control the media with such ease, and be attributed for everything voice... when in reality, they're simply building on top of others' work (like everyone should). All that said, Siri is definitely revolutionary compared to what they introduced as part of the 3GS. That voice feature just plain sucked.
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The accent is not a excuse. Everyone has an accent because today there are more people speaking english outside the USA and the UK than in those countries. That's simply because english is almost universal these days, and it's the common language of the internet. Heck, you can't leave India off this ! It's 1.2 billion people.
And I'm writing this from Chile, which is not an english speaking country by any means.
My point is: the first to win the smartphone arms race will be the one who can make it absolutely usable by everyone, and Apple is leading the way.
Disclaimer: I own a Samsung Galaxy S2 and an original iPad.
I remember having a Quadra 660 AV in 1994 which also had basic voice recognition features. I felt like Scotty from Star Trek calling my computer 'computer' before issuing a command (and it even worked)...
December 01 2011 at 5:39 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyLMFAO, great article. This is so typical. This trend will never end, and you know it. Remember when Bing was caught coping results from Google? I'd be willing to bet most of the devs at microsoft are using an iPhone 4s right now asking it, "How can I copy you?". Even better, they are probably using a MacBook Pro to "fix" TellMe.
November 28 2011 at 11:32 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyWhat you all fail to recogo I've is that marketing only gets you so far with the consumer base. For the product to actually have any longevity the product has to work, and work well. It's not apples marketing that has "brainwashed" brainwashed millions of cunsumers to buy the 4S, it's the fact that it's the best phone on the market with the best functions. Apple wasn't the first to invent many do the devices it sells, but it has done a better job than any tech company in the world to make their devices the most user friendly device ever produced. No marketing in the world can get millions of people to buy a device over and over again if it doesn't work well, just look at the newton, iMac TV, etc. what Microsoft is missing is making innovative products that is closing the gap between high tech devices and the masses. I mean Microsoft has the touch surface showcased years ago but what ever happened to it? That company is so busy trying to talk down other companies like apple, google etc that they are faking behind not only in mkt share but in the minds of the next generation of tech customers. When was the last time you heard a 11 year old ask their parents for a Microsoft anything (outside of an Xbox). If Microsoft doesn't getting together they will miss a huge generation of up and coming tech consumers. We need more companies like apple in this country not Microsoft.
November 27 2011 at 10:22 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyReally? Almost no innovation bolts out of the blue without a solid basis in predecessor technology. Mundie contends that Microsoft introduced a Siri equivalent first. No, they didn't. Siri's success has little to do with Apple's marketing, accomplished as it is. If Siri didn't actually work, and work well, it would be the subject of countless jokes and late night humor like the Newton's frequently mangled handwriting recognition was some two decades earlier. Microsoft just doesn't get it - I'm not even sure they're capable of getting it. No question about it — due to poor management lacking vision and the acumen to execute any strategy well, Microsoft has squandered what should have been an enormous lead in resources and capabilities.
November 27 2011 at 7:53 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyThose were trick questions for TellMe in the video using an unfamiliar accent. Not a fair comparison.
November 27 2011 at 1:44 PM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplySimple solution for MS or MS fans: Make a video that clearly refutes the Aussie one.
November 27 2011 at 11:46 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down Reply@Vijay, Mundie may have said those things but he also said TellMe is "completely functional". That video of Siri and TellMe did not show a functional TellMe! If TellMe can't understand non-US accents it is not *completely* functional. Very incomplete.
November 27 2011 at 4:54 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyThis video is even more amazing - German test - Siri gets every request right
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJikWg5wvBk&feature=related
Vijay, what Microsoft could learn is that concept videos aren't nearly as convincing as a shipping, working product like Siri.
November 27 2011 at 4:46 AM Report abuse Permalink rate up rate down ReplyThey are all yawning like they all did when apple introduced the iPod and the iPad. Later that wide open mouth from the yawn turns into a mouth agape in awe.
Keep yawning. You're only losing ground.
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