Giving up on the debate

Bah. This post is exactly like those forum dwellers who make a long post about how this is their last post, because the forum is subsuming their life and so on. And then they resume posting two weeks later.

Once a zealot, always a zealot. I drifted to the dark side in the late '90s to early '00s, but my zealotry returned with renewed vigor.

David, you may take a break for a while. But you'll be back at it sooner or later.

For Chris K.

Windows users can be equally as bad, they act as if using a different platform is some kind of mental disease or at least hopelessly immature. Some Windows users go out of their way to bash the Mac and most have no idea what they're talking about.
There are Ford acolytes and Chevy apostles, people who rave about Sony, and then there's the Prius owners. These people are zealots and you should wonder why they love, or hate, something so much for five minutes. And then you should ignore them. Never dismiss an idea, or computer platform, or car because the user loves it and won't shut up about it. Enjoy their passion, and then use the facts, the realities, to make your decision.

I no longer proclaim smugly that I have a better computer. I'm tired after school and Apple is not sending me money. But I will answer questions about Apple and Macs after people see me with my iBook. When most people approach me, they genuinely want to know about the hardware and software.

I agree with the other comments though. When you get people to switch, you become their tech support for life. I'm not here to make you switch, I'm just here to show you that there is a choice.

Mac Lover for life (If we supported the games I liked, I'd never touch a P.C.)

Let's not forget about those PC user who, like me, will be stuck on the pc mainly for monetary reasons. Now I know that a new Mac compared to a new PC isn't that much of a difference, and like someone above pointed out, you get additional value.

But as someone else also pointed out, where are those cheap powermacs? I for example own a 2,8ghz rig with 1gig of ram and roughly 240gigs of harddrive space and a nice 19" crt accompanied by a 17" tft. Most of the stuff was gathered over a period of time, a little update here, a little there. I know that one could probably save the money for the little updates for maybe 1-2 years and then grab a shiny new mac, but come on, we're talking humans here, and that shiny little ipod alos so needed to be bought. :)

Now, if I'd like to step up my setup a bit, a Powermac even in the lowest configuration will cost me about 2000$ upward. An iMac is out of the question cause I would lose one of my screens as well as all my harddrive space (unless I go for an additional external casing for the two drives).

A little PC update on the other hand including maybe 2gigs of new ram, a mobo and a cpu will roughly cost me 500-600$, the equivalent of a mac mini... and I could event throw in a new additional harddrive.

So for me as a student I guess I'm sort of stuck with the PC until I earn money in about 1-2 years. And boy I really would like to switch as soon as possible.

I use all 3 of the OS's for differnt thinks i have a G5, 3 Pc desktops 1 with windows media center, one with debian and one with windows xp, i also have laptop with windows xp. The Os debate is so stupid all 3 OS's are differnt and can do differnt things i like them all in there own way. My mac has probably crashed about the same as my Pcs have if not more. I have had more problems with hardware for it then My pcs. All 3 are good in there own right one really isnt better then another. And i find it funny this blog refused to acknowledge that Apple copied the postal services's Video

Now i was gonna write a small essay on the joys of all the problems i get to hear about macs by working in a retail outlet that deals with them but it'd only be falling on deaf ears probably :< the problem aint always the hardware and software, i'd say most the time the crap i get to deal with is user error. the general public are rubbish at dealing with any type of computer! all this mac hating and windows hating willy-waving has got to be one of the biggest wastes of hot air and bandwidth ever. Now i'm off to go try and spend overnight installing osx86 on a pentium 133 beige BOX motherfunsters!

What I think is the best way to switch someone isn't by going in there face and yelling to them that PC's are crap, you should just wait until the time is right. My best friend has always hated Macs and made fun of my Mini. Recently he had to reinstall Windows 'cause of all the spyware. It turned out that he had an important project on that computer, and he had to do it again. So, I approched him and pretty much just said "Hey, that would of never happened on a Mac, you never have to reinstall." Now he's saving and waiting for the intel Mac Mini.

Chris K:

I agree with everything you've said, I'm slowly migrating to mac for career reasons but still love to use my PCs and respect each others place in my daily routine, I was always put-off by the mac snob effect and it really kept me on the windows/pc platform for a bit longer, I still find the bashing wars wasteful and see them as hurting the Mac image more than helping.



Just as a general thing, I've actually had better wifi connectivity than friends with powerbooks. Now the reason is, most likely, my PCMCIA Orinoco, both a solid card and external, but it's never suffered from XP faltering specifically. I've had times where I get half-strength in a room full of disconnecting PBs.

I think the real issue there is your friend buys laptops with poorly designed internal antennas, and that's just poor consumerism, if anything. Also, I feel it's a bad choice to cite wifi, I mean we all remember the Ti PB connectivity issues, right? Windows notebooks may not all be great, but it's not like the PBs have always been better in everything.

I look forward to buying a MacBook (after several PB returns for various bizarre reasons) and intend to still use my PCs happily, benefitting from both equally, and having the beauty that is multi-platform compatibility. If anything, I'm more intrigued by how I can make all of them work together and ease my daily tasks.

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Glad you're giving up on "the debate". Now please give up on "the rhetoric" too: penalty of death? get real.

I have a PC and a mac on my desk. They both work. I use both. I'm completely unexcited by debate about which is better. I find the PC good for some things and the mac good for others. Neither has viruses or spyware, and neither has been rebooted in a month. I find it hard to believe I'm the only one that has achieved this level of cross-OS harmony...