Ruby on Rails included with Leopard server

I'm always disappointed by the older versions they include in the server though -- if it wasn't for http://www.entropy.ch/software/macosx/welcome.html , MySQL nice installer, and Fink, we'd still be using old school PHP and MySQL. It always ends up we have to configure an installation that hides itself outside what we would typically do on a Linux box just so it doesn't become flubbed by Software Update. Not that I'm dying for bleeding edge everything, but if they're not going to put the latest and greatest stable release, it's a bit backwards.

I expect this though - just like I expect their Wiki to be a bit weak like their blogging software built in was pretty weak. It's a hard middle ground, they market a server that doesn't need an IT department, when anyone who runs a Tiger server knows right away the discrepancies and needs an IT department. They sell it with entry level billing, when it barely is.

Be nice to see this on Leopard standard not just the server version.
Also like to see PHP5, MySQL 5 & Apache2 delivered with the non-server Leopard.

ROR is included on on the client... See comment above... Or just look on the 'innernet'

http://weblog.rubyonrails.org/

The only downside to this is how many RoR developers will be using OS X Server? What would be really nice is to include RoR on Leopard itself, not just the server.

It's also included on Leopard client.

Tiger server is universal.

That's great. I hope it is included with the consumer version of leopard too.

This may be a stupid question, but will leopard be universal? and will we be able to take advantage of the new "Core Animation" feature on G4 PPC's?

Well, it looks like you can now order a Mac Pro with Server pre-installed so it must be Universal now.

Did they mention yesterday whether Tiger Server is now Universal? I know they announced the XServes, but they aren't shipping until October.